Thread: Looking to buy gtp

u know u'll be told no pulley swap just yet. depending on goals. headers are a better investment than plog d/p. think about how far u wanna go before hand. get rid of ubend first thing though. s/c oil and coupler maybe $30 bucks. homeade 4" fwi and filter $50 ??. u bend delete under $30. makes a different car.

seriously read the modding your 3800 safely thread. if u don't read these stickies pertaining to your questions, some folks blow up. if i were in your shoes:aeroforce scanner, $230 new?, i think?.. this way u'll know if you have knock retard(bad, ) or not.somecars need cai,plog exhaust, plug, thermostat, just to keep from knocking on a stock pulley. just read that sticky. common knowledge is that a kr(knock retard) free stock pulley car, will run circles around a knocking smaller pulley car. u can't always hear kr. when u do, its too damn late........READ brother,(and i don't mean that in a smart ars way )later dude.

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unless of course you want to lose your front bank of pistons

if u can spend the $$$$$$, headers will only be a little more than a plog and down pipe,(dp or d/p) i found my headers 2 months ago for 150 shipped, used, i spent 100 coating them at my buddys business, i also welded the crossover to ensure no leaking ,,pace ****ters. i mean pace setters. so i sold the plog and d/p for $210. i've got less than $50 in headers. mid range power is so awesome!!

most header will have a d/p to connect to the cat, u'll have to check....not too hard to install, just put the frontend on jack stands and don't rush and use the copper high heat rtv to healp seal. i have a family too, 17 yr ols senior and my son 14 in 9th grade and he wrestles for the school. me and wife are in last semester in school starting back next week. my credit is phucked and i'm almost always broke so i know modding is ruff when u have ideas and no $$$. what u can do till u get the $$ for the right headers is to keep stock pulley on, do the other mods and take off the front manifild and port/gasket match itto the gasket. its temporary but it might help a little.

also read what others do and have done, just don't drop pullies yet, it cost alot more if u pop one of the pistons. get/ borrow an aeroforce gauge and see what motor is doing now. be patient and safe!

SSAC's are the cheapest, 350 shipped is quite a deal considering the cost of a PLOG and a downpipe.

That thread is a little oddly written. Basically, you have to do the mods listed above where it mentions pulley drop to 100% safely drop to that size pulley.

i ported my s/c housing when i did my intake gaskets, it was off so why not? i already had aluminum cutter bits in various sizes and shpes. just search on the forums and internet about the shape and do not touch the silencer ports at all.(maybe seal them if anything, but thats preference issue)...check the inlet too and make sure the t.b. doesn't underhang the inlet. u can find some ebay headers for a good price, just be patient if the mod bug isn't killin u.

Originally Posted by hourang

yeah and one of them is porting the blower housing, i doubt you need to port the blower before you run a smaller pulley.

Typically DP + PLOG, colder plugs, 180* T-stat, tune, intake then a 3.4 pulley.

Whats better is to port the blower, get headers and then have a killer 3.4 setup because you can then run more timing.

OR you could try to run a smaller pulley.

Both = more power.

do exhaust mods first, and cai of some type, then u don't have to worry about any more exhaus t stuff. me? i might actually try mufflers soon.

Originally Posted by hourang

yeah i want to do some kinda cai as soon as possible. its a pain in the butt to take the stock unit off to change the filter. i couldnt even get it off, my fingers started hurting after a while of pulling on it.

If you think thats bad... just wait till you try to change the plugs...