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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrewings View Post
    How can GM sell to Holden when GM owns most of Holden? They're just another division of GM like Chevy or Pontiac.
    See its their global platform thats doing oh so much better then GM ever has.

    GM owns parts, most of GM's ideas since the early 50's have come from australia. all of our muscle cars well the 60's versions were all holden designs.

    1953 holden had a ute out, wow GM didnt bring the us version of the ute until 1959 in the form of the el camino, and just like GM ford did the same thing but ford au is a direct link to ford US.

    they arent another "division" its GM's global market.

    Anyone who has served overseas has seen this especially in europe and the middle east, not to mention japan.

    Besides holden has been in business since 1856, its a partnership not a division of GM. Holden had 1.3 billion in exports in 2006, GM spent that much on a redesign of the camaro and corvette.

    Like I said maybe Holden should buy out GM this time around, its obvious that this entity does far better in auto sales and development then GM does.

    All you GTO owners, you coulda gotten a real monaro shipped over for under 20 grand US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteDevil View Post
    they arent another "division" its GM's global market.
    Yes, they are a division of GM.

    GM Holden Ltd is an Australian automaker based in Port Melbourne, Victoria. The company was originally independent, but since 1931 has been a subsidiary of General Motors (GM).
    Holden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That's the same way that GM acquired Oldsmobile. GM set up office on top of Holden the same way it did all its other divisions. Holden does so well because they are outside the US. GM does great everywhere but its home turf. Chevies are sold overseas and do great too (having nothing to do with the Chevies here) and Chevy is still a division of GM. A subsidiary cannot buy out its parent company... That'd be like your son trying to buy you with the allowance money you gave him.

    It all goes back and forth with Holden, too. The 2006 Commodore was their first solely Australian designed car since 1971.
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