Quote Originally Posted by WickedGoat View Post
to check the master cylinder do this... with the car turned off pump the brake pedal up until it is stiff... keep your foot on the brake pedal and start the car up... if it sinks to the floor, chances are the master cylinder is probably done. The only other thing that you can do is bleed the ABS system with the brake system and see if that improves the brake pedal.

If I remember correctly, there should be a bleeder valve in the cooling system that you can open up and that will flush any air out. Double check the coolant elbows and the lower intake manifold gasket to make sure that they aren't leaking on you.
thats what i was saying. the pedal pumps up till you start the car then it goes to the floor. but before doing the bleed it wasn't. i had brakes they just felt a bit soft but they didn't go to the floor like they are now. it's like the bleed added air instead of removing. the guy i have working on it said he did a gravity bleed and has a good solid pedal , which during our 2 man bleed i never felt like the pedal got as hard as other vehicles i've done the 2 man bleed with. but for now i can't start the car because we finally discovered the fuel line leak the previous owner said it had , which is right in front of the fuel filter , so now i have to replace the fuel line from the engine back . of course nobody locally stocks the line and the only one he could find was in tennessee so it'll be awhile before i'll be starting the car again . i'm beginning to have a dislike for grand prix's. half the car will be new before i even get it inspected. looks like i'll be replacing the sway bar and tie rod ends too.

wouldn't pressure testing the system have shown a bad manifold gasket ? plus there is no coolant in the oil.