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  1. #141 Re: Adding HUD and a DIC to your 97-03 GP 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoldAsIce View Post
    OK I have a 2001 GP GT and it has a DIC in it but it's just the picture of the car for the door lights etc.. I want to change it to the DIC with the MPG, oil life all that good stuff do I need to splice any wiring for this or is it just a swap? I did read the first few pages but I just want to make sure before I spend cash on it if it's not going to work! And my father had a 2003 GTP and I didn't find the HUD to be worth the money or time to drop it in a GT it's actually kind of annoying IMO. Thanks
    You would need to remove your dash to see if you have the connectors already there. If not then you will need to splice. It is not that difficult to do. Just follow the connections on the first page. As stated you want a DIC from a 98-02. The 97's need 97's and the 03's are slightly different and it is recommended to stick with an 03. You also want to get the GT digital DIC. If you get one from a GTP the traction light will be on. This can be easily fixed with this write up ClubGP:
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    Well my traction lights on anyway lol but yea it's not that it's hard just I'm disabled and I can't use my right hand the best so I'm afraid if it's like very dexterity needed I won't be able to do it but I'm gonna get a GT one pointless to get a GTP if I'm gonna spend the money anyway and I will see if I have the connections if not maybe I can use those wire taps.. The blue connectors that you crimp and it links them up.. If I make any sense lol

    I was thinking since I've gotta take the cluster out I might as well change the bulbs to LED 1 of the bulbs is out but it's not that big of a deal but like I said being I have to anyway might as well! There should be no power issues swapping to LEDs right? I know there is a red film so pointless to make it another color but I was thinking super white LEDs and I assume the #74 bulbs just leave stock.. I know this isn't the place to ask this but I assume you or someone on here knows about this thanks!
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    In case anyone is looking to add a HUD to there car I found someone selling a dash with the HUD hole for $60!

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    I was gonna get it but I don't need the HUD no big deal to me so I'd rather a fellow GPer get it!
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    i installed an 02 gp gt hud in my 97 monte carlo
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    kinda curious about how hard it would be to convert a 97 monte carlo to gp hud
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    What about doing this on a 2007? I already have the full dic I just want to add the HUD.

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    The hud is easy. Hardest part is making the hole in the dash
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    What about doing this on a 2007? I already have the full dic I just want to add the HUD.

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    Well I could buy the top dash price for HUD off a 2008 for $60 and that already has everything cut with the glass over top

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    Its more about does my car have the cables already there to hook it up or would I need to wire everything myself, will my pcm know to even send that type of info out for rpms and speed to the HUD?

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    Dont kno if the wires are there. As for the pcm , all the hud is is a fancy cluster. So yeah itll work fine with the pcm
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    Its more about does my car have the cables already there to hook it up or would I need to wire everything myself, will my pcm know to even send that type of info out for rpms and speed to the HUD?

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    Last question, I found a HUD off a 2007 grand Prix but no wires or anything it's just the unit. Do I need any other wires?

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    You need the plug and at least a few inches of wire coming out of it if your car doesnt have it. I know that on 97-03 gps its kinda a crapshoot if it has the plug, unsure on 04+. If it uses the same plug as the earlier hud i have spare lug i can send yaif you dont have the wiring already
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    Last question, I found a HUD off a 2007 grand Prix but no wires or anything it's just the unit. Do I need any other wires?

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    I appreciate that. Im gonna take my dash off next time I get a day off and loom

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    Been reading through the whole thread. Great information. Forgive me if I miss somethings, but it is such a long thread it might not hurt to revisit, at least that is the excuse I am trying to use. :-)
    My question may be best broken up into two areas, one cosmetic the other interfacing. For now to narrow the context I am going to ask from installing a DIC, but can be expended to HUD and maybe something custom.

    Interfacing:
    Sounds like I maybe boxed into a corner, since I have a 97 GP GT. In my shelter life all I have ever seen is analog DIC on my 97, 02 SE, 02 GP. Once I moved into the 06 (two of them), 07 GXP then I saw a digital. After doing some googling I did see where someone was selling an earlier model digital. Looking at some of the names of the wires there seems a mixture of signals. Some are "a wire (bit on/off)" and "bus (communicated serial?)" I know you stress 97's only 97's. Is that because of connectors? It was mentioned because of "tire pressure" notification. What's/How is the sensor? What about using a latter model digital (cosmetic issue discussed in next section)?

    Cosmetic:
    Adding a round peg into a somewhat square hole? Of course the cosmetic is mute point if interfacing can not be worked out.
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    how can i tell if my '97 is wired for the dic already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikejohnlewis View Post
    how can i tell if my '97 is wired for the dic already?
    i never did get an answer to my question. This may be a dead thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikejohnlewis View Post
    how can i tell if my '97 is wired for the dic already?
    Easiest way is to remove the dash and see if the wires are there.
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    I did this and there is another set of wires behind the non digital dic, its a large black connector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikejohnlewis View Post
    how can i tell if my '97 is wired for the dic already?
    Excerpts from previous posts. Only 97s and 98s have the harness because GTP was a factory option on GTs for those years, rather than being a model of its own. The DIC harness should be on the side near the glove box. The HUD harness should be behind the analog display.
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    Idk if I'm posting this right or not, but I have a question about installing both the DIC and HUD in my GP. I have a 97 SE and it has all the same options/connectors as the gt and gtp. So I cut the dash out and install the HUD and I got a DIC from a 97 gtp out of the junkyard. The HUD works and the DIC works but I'm getting flashing zeros after the car is on for a few seconds. Can anyone plz help with this, oh and I did not have to splice wire as the hookups were already there.
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    Sorry.. never heard of flashing zeros.
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