Speed Daddy Headers or...?

**hammerline81** · 09-30-2013

I've got a 04 GTP(L32). I'm just wondering if I should bother with these Speed Daddy headers or go with some Pacesetters with ZZP's "perfection package" I can get them both for roughly the same price, $100 difference, but if I go with ZZP's package it'll be $300 difference ($650.00 to my door). I've talked to a guy on another forum and he mentioned that a few people changed out the flexi pipe with a better quality one when they got the Speed Daddy's. I don't wanna re-fab the headers to make them fit so does anyone have any opinions/experience putting the Speed Daddy's in on a L32? What about the Pacesetters as well? Thanks!

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

id go sd all the way. had mine on for a year and the original flex is doing fine!

**hammerline81** · 09-30-2013

Good to hear. They're really cheap and from eBay so I had to ask. Do you have an aftermarket cat back?

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

theres no need for a aftermarket catback if your under 350whp

**REDCRAPGP** · 09-30-2013

SD!! Replace the flex beforehand so you don't have to worry about it leaking on you (even though many including myself have ran the stock flex without any leaking/ticking). Shouldnt cost to much to have it cut off and the new one welded in.

If you go Pacesetters you'll still want to have part of it welded anyways so just adds more to the overall cost.

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

use band clamps and a new gasket to the catback in place of what they give you you will be golden. Easyish install.
get a 3.6 pulley and a tune. done

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

SD!! Replace the flex beforehand so you don't have to worry about it leaking on you (even though many including myself have ran the stock flex without any leaking/ticking). Shouldnt cost to much to have it cut off and the new one welded in.

If you go Pacesetters you'll still want to have part of it welded anyways so just adds more to the overall cost.

if your going to do all that you might as well fix the u bend.

I say install it and see what happens, most people dont have an issue with the flex.

**REDCRAPGP** · 09-30-2013

Just cutting off the stock flex and welding on a new one is a easy and quick job. Modifying the bend isn't so much....OP may not want to go through all that. Especially if he keeps the stock height it shouldn't be a issue.

When I first installed mine I thought hey the bend isn't so bad ill just deal with it. Had the car at the shop and when I was leaving just to go 5 mins up the road it constantly scrapped. I hated myself for not just spending the money prior and modifying it but at the time I was impatient and didn't have the extra money to spare. Now Its pulled it off and have it sitting in the garage and when I get the time I'll modify it. The cars not my DD atm so time isn't a problem.

Edit: typo darn spellcheck

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

Just cutting off the stock flex and welding on a new one is a easy and quick job. Modifying the bend isn't so much....OP may not want to go through all that. Especially if he keeps the stock height it should be a issue.

When I first installed mine I thought hey the bend isn't so bad ill just deal with it. Had the car at the shop and when I was leaving just to go 5 mins up the road it constantly scrapped. I hated myself for not just spending the money prior and modifying it but at the time I was impatient and didn't have the extra money to spare. Now Its pulled it off and have it sitting in the garage and when I get the time I'll modify it. The cars not my DD atm so time isn't a problem.

im running the sd with the ubend and i have about .5" fender gap on stock tires(about a 4" drop), Ive scraped maybe twice.

**hammerline81** · 09-30-2013

Well I live in Canada and they put road salt on the streets in the winter like a guy takes a morning piss. So I'm wondering if this will hold up to that abuse?

**REDCRAPGP** · 09-30-2013

Roads are crappy around here but I can deal with it but since Im having a cat welded in I might as well just finish modifying them and be done with it!

**REDCRAPGP** · 09-30-2013

They're stainless steel so yes...

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

I have terrible roads too. My city is broke sauce.

They will hold up.

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

dont just take my word for it, do a search. A lot of BIG builds are using sd's.

**hammerline81** · 09-30-2013

Lol glad to hear that you guys feel my pain. So where would you get the ubend delete from? ZZP? What about the flex pipe? I know in Canada they charge out the ass for anything so I don't but anything but food, booze and gas here.

**blackflag** · 09-30-2013

id leave the ubend alone. im running 13's on a 3.4, headers, tune. no KR. its not a big deal

**REDCRAPGP** · 09-30-2013

It all comes down to $$$ if you have a bit of patients and time modify it and never have to worry about them.

Some rough #s
SD are around $220 of so.
New flex is like $35-40 last I checked.
4 band clamps $40ish.
O2 extension. $10-15ish
Wood to build the jig $10ish if not less.
Getting them rewelded $50ish.

Just a rough idea.

**REDCRAPGP** · 09-30-2013

Originally Posted by hammerline81

Lol glad to hear that you guys feel my pain. So where would you get the ubend delete from? ZZP? What about the flex pipe? I know in Canada they charge out the ass for anything so I don't but anything but food, booze and gas here.

http://www.grandprixforums.net/showthread.php?t=44223

Should ^^^ answer some questions about the bend were referring to.

Yea plenty run SD on moderate to big builds. Exactly why their so recommended by others.

**hammerline81** · 09-30-2013

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

http://www.grandprixforums.net/showthread.php?t=44223

Should ^^^ answer some questions about the bend were referring to.

Yea plenty run SD on moderate to big builds. Exactly why their so recommended by others.

Yeah, I priced most of it out and it came to be over $400 for all the refabs and stuff.. $200 more and I get the Pacesetters without worrying about messing up a measurement or angle.