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  1. #1 Re: Thinking of converting to E85.. Yes or Ne?? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    Wrong... pre-ignition or detonation is 'knock'.
    A sway bar hitting the downpipe and causing the sensor to trigger 'KR' is not knock. It's false knock.

    Are we really doing this right now?
    This is like the twilight zone.
    The sensor picks it up and tells the pcm to back the **** up...So yes, it is real knock. There is a problem, in this case, the downpipe and swaybar hitting eachother. Fix that, the knock goes away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoarkatsINmuhtrailer View Post
    The sensor picks it up and tells the pcm to back the **** up...So yes, it is real knock. There is a problem, in this case, the downpipe and swaybar hitting eachother. Fix that, the knock goes away.
    Do you mean Knock Retard or actual Knocking occuring in the engine?

    The KR is always real because Knock retard is the retarding of the timing that is occurring due to the PCM picking up what it believes is knock from the knock sensors. It doesn't matter what is causing it to pull the timing. If the PCM is pulling timing and reporting KR, the KR is real.

    The cause for the KR can be false, as in the knock signal can be falsified.

    Unless you guys have a different defintion of KR from say the GM service manual or the HPT manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    Do you mean Knock Retard or actual Knocking occuring in the engine?

    The KR is always real because Knock retard is the retarding of the timing that is occurring due to the PCM picking up what it believes is knock from the knock sensors. It doesn't matter what is causing it to pull the timing. If the PCM is pulling timing and reporting KR, the KR is real.

    The cause for the KR can be false, as in the knock signal can be falsified.

    Unless you guys have a different defintion of KR from say the GM service manual or the HPT manual.
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