ok, fuses, relays, etc are good. the ambient temp sensor seems fine, it had around 11.4k resistance sitting in open air in house, about 68 F. in hand closed it shower about 9.8 k resistance, in freezer it rolled about 15-16k. so it seems that this is good. i ordered a new digital climate controller. what else can i check to see why the hell my a/c doesnt work and cooling fans stay off? i need to buy r134, im sure its low, and could be the root cause for all this...tomorrow we go shopping! any other ideas are greatly appreciated! thanks 00grandprix. assuming your location is the only one i know, you are a fellow hoosier, im on duty in SoCal for the time being.