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    On an 04 gtp im doing a head gasket... 1st question from what i have read both head gasket arrows are to be towards the pulley side of motor?.... And second is the torque sequence they ask for 37ft lbs then a 120 degree from the 37ft lb point? Sorry just dont wanna screw up a fresh rebuild thanks fellers.
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    yes both arrows should point towards the pulleys (front of the engine) not sure about the torque specs but are you using new head bolts? the old ones are one time use only

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    Yes new head bolts what id did is torque to 37 ft lbs according to the sequence on this site.... Then if im understanding correctly from the 37 ft lb mark turn 120 degree from that point... I just need a little go ahead from anyone whos done these the right way... But good call though
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    You are absolutely correct on the torque spec. Git R Done.
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    Thats good news.
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    I would suggest not jumping to the 37ftlbs at first, step it up in stages. Just my $.02..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toms04compg View Post
    Yes new head bolts what id did is torque to 37 ft lbs according to the sequence on this site.... Then if im understanding correctly from the 37 ft lb mark turn 120 degree from that point... I just need a little go ahead from anyone whos done these the right way... But good call though
    Make sure to put molly lube on the bolt threads and the underside of the bolt head...this is very important. Get them all tight (about 10 ft-lb) and go in sequence to 37 ft-lb. Use an angle gauge and go in sequence to get the 120 degrees.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    Maybe it was the S2 or that I had a 97 at the time. I recall the inner 4 bolts getting some additional torque. Anyone?
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    Never heard of that Bill.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    K... likely an early production thing then.
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    ...or Series 1?
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    No Chuckie Cheese...my 97 Bville was a 97.
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    Chuckie Cheese lmao!
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    found something

    Cylinder head bolts: 37 ft/lbs + 130 degrees + 30 degrees up to 10/98

    Yep... up to Oct of 98. Early production thing.
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    So take that chuckie cheese!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Maybe it was the S2 or that I had a 97 at the time. I recall the inner 4 bolts getting some additional torque. Anyone?
    Never heard of that. It's just a different torque spec for up to and including 98.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    No i didnt use any moly lube.... Is this a problem? I torqued to 37 but never did a 120 degree turn yet should i take them out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toms04compg View Post
    No i didnt use any moly lube.... Is this a problem? I torqued to 37 but never did a 120 degree turn yet should i take them out?
    Pull them out and lube them if you haven't done the final angle.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    Hope i didnt waste a new gasket and bolts....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toms04compg View Post
    Hope i didnt waste a new gasket and bolts....
    Gasket doesn't care about the 37 ft-lb. It's the 120 degrees that smashes the helico flex. The bolts don't start to stretch until about 90 ft-lb.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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