Finally buying first "Performance mod"

**kking89** · 05-06-2012

I'm going to buy a new down pipe, I just don't know what I should get? I want to get as deep sounding as I can. All suggestions WANTED and WELCOMED. As long as it's not a bank breaker. Keep it under 250 as much as possible. I have a 2003 LE GT, bone stock except for open cone and 180 t-Stat

**twol8uluz** · 05-06-2012

Get speed daddy headers and u bend delete. 250 dollhairz! And if im correct...the search button is still free. Lol

**machinegunsquid** · 05-06-2012

Yeah, just go ahead and get the Speed-daddy headers. Search for the 127931203 threads about them, and it'll answer all the questions you can possibly have.

Headers > Downpipe and stock mani's, and will give you a deeper note.

**DanPrixGTP** · 05-06-2012

speed daddy or SSAC headers both less than $250

**bps02gtp** · 05-06-2012

oh boy you started a huge debate lol

**bps02gtp** · 05-06-2012

ok you want a downpipe. people are going to say why bother just get headers. a little while ago i asked what are the great gains against downpipes when getting headers. so since that will probably be your next question, just read this.

http://www.grandprixforums.net/signi...log-59162.html

**kking89** · 05-06-2012

Originally Posted by twol8uluz

Get speed daddy headers and u bend delete. 250 dollhairz! And if im correct...the search button is still free. Lol

250 for both together?

**kking89** · 05-06-2012

Also if i get headers could i swap them over to a S/C motor later with no problem?

**jteske88** · 05-07-2012

I have a zzp 3inch bolt in for 100+shipping, gaskets included

**DanPrixGTP** · 05-07-2012

Originally Posted by twol8uluz

Get speed daddy headers and u bend delete. 250 dollhairz! And if im correct...the search button is still free. Lol

Headers take care of the Ubend, you don't need a Ubend delete when you get headers

**txslow6** · 05-07-2012

Originally Posted by kking89

Also if i get headers could i swap them over to a S/C motor later with no problem?

Yes it's all the same

**kking89** · 05-07-2012

Originally Posted by txslow6

Yes it's all the same

Any place I can get a good used set of Speed daddy or SSAC headers? Also any videos of how the car sounds with the headers in.

**bps02gtp** · 05-07-2012

Jteske. Is that catted?

**blueguy** · 05-07-2012

Originally Posted by kking89

Any place I can get a good used set of Speed daddy or SSAC headers? Also any videos of how the car sounds with the headers in.

Used?

Guy, they are $175 brand new.

**acidcrashdburnd** · 05-07-2012

Here you go
0 Performance Racing Products for International Sales from SSAutochrome Inc.

Bluegtp91 set me straight.. just paying it forward.

**copgtp** · 05-07-2012

Well, I'm going to disagree with everybody in here. I would rather have a quality downpipe then crappy headers any day.

Any cheap ebay headers are either going to have fitment issues or leak issues.

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**blueguy** · 05-07-2012

Only if they have installer error.

I've put on half a dozen sets.

No leaks.

**copgtp** · 05-07-2012

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

Only if they have installer error.

I've put on half a dozen sets.

No leaks.

Well I suppose you have magic hands, bc almost every set I've come across needed welding / rtv, new clamps, etc, etc.

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**matt5112** · 05-07-2012

You can install any slip fit joint without RTV and have it be leak free?

**blueguy** · 05-07-2012

Like no exhaust install should go without RTV, cmon Jason.

I've used the clamps they give you...

OR, you can get better stepped band clamps, and then...if you don't have magic hands...they end up still being cheaper than a ZZP Downpipe.

Imagine that.

And it'll probably put down 10+WHP over a downpipe car with stock manifolds, because you still left the 2nd worst restriction in the exhaust system...the Front Manny.