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    Hey guys!! Sorry it's been so long since I've last replied, I've been extremely busy, and a little disheartened after I did all of that work and nothing came of it . I finally found some time to take my grand prix over to autozone to not only get the scan done but actually have the receipt printed out for me!

    Slowna06 I will definitely try those things you've said, thanks for all that information.

    Here is what they printed out for me.

    Troubleshooting: p0300

    Oem Brand: Domestic

    Definition: Cylinder misfire detected.-random cylinders

    Explanation:

    The powertrain control module monitors the crankshaft speed and has detected a misfire condition.

    Probable cause

    1. Ignition system fault-spark plugs ignition wires, coil (I've changed all of those!)

    2. Vacuum leak

    3. Injector fault

    4. High or low fuel pressure.

    Thank you all for your help so far! I'm hoping I can get more so that I can understand what this all means and what to do next. I'm kind of excited and re motivated to work on the car and get it fixed so I can finally drive my baby again.

    Oh and the guy at autozone told me to spray brake cleaner (or fluid? can't remember) on the vacuum hose while the engine was running, and if the car died, than the problem is the vacuum leak. Does this sound right to you?
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    First double check that all the plugwires are pused all the way on the plugs, and that they are all going to the right cylinder. Not questioning your abilities, but its best to start with the easy stuff. Also check all your wiring to make sure it is not rubbed through anywhere.

    Brake Cleaner - It will change the idle, might cause it to rev up instead of dieing down. Also spray around the intake to check for a leak there. Avoide plugwires, coils, and exhaust manifolds- we dont want a fire.

    P0300 - More then likely if it was an injector(or coil) this code would have a buddy code- saying what clylinder(s) have the misfire

    Low fuel pressure can cause this code - hard to test without a gage.

    A crank position sensor can cause this issue when it starts going bad - common problem on these engins

    Also an ignition control module(the thing the coil packs sit on) can cause this code.
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    Xander, Im in Kentucky. Im a few hours away But I could help, Im over in Cadiz... Just West of hopkinsville.
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    time to call the exterminator
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian99SE View Post
    Xander, Im in Kentucky. Im a few hours away But I could help, Im over in Cadiz... Just West of hopkinsville.
    Hi, I appreciate the offer, but I might have figured it out! Not sure yet though so I'm going to test my theories here. If it turns out I'm wrong I'll definitely take advantage of your gracious offer.

    I remembered last week that this problem started after my car was low on gas, so naturally I went to fill it up. I never read the owners manual so I never read about how you should use premium gas with this car. I had been using regular gas for over a month. Today I figured what the heck might as well buy some stp fuel cleaner and carburetor injector cleaner. I used both and at the same time and filled up with premium gas. WOW! It felt like a lot of vitality was restored but it is still slightly rough on acceleration. Not nearly as bad as when the problem first occurred but no where near the smooth instantaneous acceleration as before the problem came up. I miss that version of my car. My oil hasn't been changed in a while, could that be why it's still a little rough on acceleration?

    Or have I done so much damage that it will never be restored? Is the problem fixed or is it normal for your car to run like that after these additives are added, even if your car still has problems wrong with it? One other thing I did was park the car and check what rpms it started getting rough at by throttling it ever so slightly and then all the way up to full throttle. It didn't seem too bad (this was after the gas and additives) but it didn't go past 4200 rpms while in park at full throttle. It started chugging a little when it got there and wouldn't go any further (didn't die the meter just wouldn't go further) is that normal?

    You guys are awesome, I never thought I would learn so much about cars, and never thought I would find it this interesting!
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    The 4200 in park is the rev limiter btw...
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    A piece of advice is to avoid most fuel additives. The greater majority are chemicals that will harm parts with prolonged use.

    But if the additives increased performance... I'd be tempted to say you have a clogged fuel filter and the cleaners got a little extra fuel through it.
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    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
    Use 195* tstat unless you can thoroughly explain why not; 99.9% don't need a lower temp.
    Almost any oil filter, ever, is of higher quality than ACDelco. Spend $6+.
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    I understand that I has been almost 2 years since this all went down for you, but do you remember if your car had horrifically bad gas mileage during these issues? I seem to be in a similar situation, and I'm getting about 7 miles per gallon
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    best to start your own thread. but anyways, when was your last tune up? your miles, the year car and engine you have?

    a flashing light usually means a clogged cat, or you need a tune up real bad.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    It's a 2006 with a 3.8L Supercharged, 145k miles. I was planning for a tune up some time after the new year, but this all sprung out of nowhere
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    if its never been tuned up, start there, plugs and wires. (get iridium spark plugs)

    oil change, coolant flush, trans service, pan drop and filter only, (dont get it flushed) and fuel filter should all be done soon too.

    get your own records on your fluids. lord only knows when or if these fluids were ever changed.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Why not get a transflush? Pan drop and filter is needed but also a trans flus
    2001 sliver gtp her name is Reagan
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98buicksupercharged View Post
    Why not get a transflush? Pan drop and filter is needed but also a trans flus

    because flushing a trans thats never been serviced its whole life, or not knowing its records if it was ever serviced can be a death sentence for your tranny.

    especially when over 100,000 miles.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Not with the new flushing technology that has came out. The older machines that pushed the fluid through the transmission is know to do wreck a old worn out one. But the new machine that my company has doesn't do that. I flushed my buicks at 180 with this machine and it was flushed once at 50. And it held up great. That's the old days flushes killed them. New machines work great
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    "Most" newer machines are just fluid exchangers, they just tie into the cooler line and have the car pump out the out fluid while sucking in new fluid. The trans pump itself does all the work, thats why they are safe.

    But there are still many older mom and pop shops that have flushing machines, and those will kill your transmission.

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    That's the brand we use. The new ones are great
    2001 sliver gtp her name is Reagan
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    So whats the "NEW" technology that your companies machine uses? Exchanging fluid thru the lines has been around along time. Thats how to do a full fluid change at home.
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    Older machines have a pump inside it that pushed the fluid through. The new ones uses the trans pump to flush instead of its own
    pump
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    as far as i know all those flush machines do is replace the cooler and swap the fluid, (out with the old, in with the new via the cooler lines) the trans pump is what does the exchange of fluid.

    its the clutch material thats in the fluid that keeping the tranny alive with higher miles, change all the fluid and the tranny dies on the spot. seen it happen. ( more then once)

    not sure how your machine at work keeps the clutch material in the tranny. maybe your one of the few lucky ones. if the tranny was in real good shape, ( you said it was flushed once before) it will survive.

    its a chance thats 100% not worth taking in my book. nothing worse then thinking your doing a good thing and then having to get a new tranny the next day.


    if you own the car, or tranny from new, and do a flush every 30,000 miles, your tanny will love you its whole long life. i did that to my both bought from new 97 gmc and 03 gmc trucks. true both trannys blew up, but i snow plowed, towed a boat and put 30,000 miles a year on both trucks. the 97 tranny blew up at 175,000 (real world work trucks) and yes i beat the tar out of both of them.

    both had 33's on them too with 4.10 gears.

    i miss the 03 so much.
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