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04-18-2011
hey guys im shopping for my headers n saw these two new headers was wondering what you thought. i'm unsure witch ones to get. thxs!
1}WBS Headers
W Body Store
2}ZZP Headers
ZZ Performance
back up choice
3}TOG headers
The Other Guys Exhaust Headers: 3800 Performance
04-18-2011
Only new one is the first set...the others have been around awhile.
if I had the money...I'd get ZZP's...but I'd never spend that much money on headers for a WBody.
04-18-2011
My personal choice would be getting SLP headers, new or used. I love them. Hoiwever if I had to choose from the three it would be WBS.
04-18-2011
do the WBS ones.
TOGs are overrated.
04-18-2011
I've tossed up info on headers and installs in the past, and it never seems to get old. Here ya go.
SLP's/SD's: Very easy to install, the slip fit is great. Ensure if you have the SD's that you plan for the O2 hitting the side of the tunnel/firewall and you pick up the band like torca clamps. FWIW I love to do the installs on these two types of headers.
Togs: Installers nightmare of headers. At least the ones I've done. The flange for the crossover to rear header is right at the trans dipstick. You have to bend the tube, then have three people on hand. One on top, another on bottom of the flange and a third to get the beers. IMO having the donut and flanges is bad, they are in the exhaust stream, a slip fit is nice flow IMO.
WB/ZZP: honestly they look basically the same for shape to me. Overall an easy install like SD/SLP's without surprises. However the ZZP EGR relocation is a bit unnerving. You must bend that EGR tube a good amount and those tubes crack just being bolted to the LIM. Bending is not my favorite part. Otherwise.. good install.
04-19-2011
TOGs install is kind of frustrating when you get to installing the crossover - the bolts are in the least convenient places possible. Then, once you get it installed, you have to re-tighten everything from underneath the car after it's heat-soaked a bit.
04-19-2011
Honestly just save a few hundred and buy speed daddy headers. I spent an extra $40 on gaskets and clamps and have no problems.
04-19-2011
Since Speed Daddy's aren't on the list I'd have to choose WBS.
04-19-2011
Anyone see the WBS downpipe yet?
04-19-2011
Thxs for the input guys, I haven't seen the WBS Do yet even tho I asked for a pic....
04-19-2011
A local bought a set...
Having plenty 'o issues with the transmission dipstick.
04-20-2011
so they are TOGs with slip joints? damn...Originally Posted by bluegtp91
04-20-2011
WBS downpipe, v-band and no retarded u bend in the dp!!!!!
04-20-2011
FWIW I like my SSAC's.
04-20-2011
Makes sense.
Otherwise bolting up the EGR would be impossible.
One of the reasons why I hated my pacesetters.
04-20-2011
Pacesetter made the EGR tube in the rear header too small/shallow. Had they changed one simple thing the EGR would have fit like it came out of the factory.
04-20-2011
Oh fitting it in there wasn't my problem.
the crossover made it impossible to do/undo the bolt.
04-20-2011
1/4" ratchet with pivoting head, a 3" extension and a shallow 10mm socket.
Been there, won that battle.
04-20-2011
i love my speed daddy's...but hey, i'm cheap...
04-20-2011
So OP how bout them speed daddys....yeaa u know
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