I agree with bluegtp91, it comes down to opinion SnowDrift. You sound like you're trying to push your opinion on what a good sounding exhaust should sound like a little past what other people want to hear. I try to keep an open mind. Each car's engine is a different size and every exhaust will sound different. For me it comes down to how "good" you can make the exhaust sound on that particular car. I just want to get rid of my black cow bell tips lol. They look like air horns to me. Even if tips don't make a difference in sound...![]()