if anyone needs intake ideas...

**Bio248** · 05-05-2010

Originally Posted by EJOUIE

So cold air would reduce knocking but yield less performance?

what? no. colder air will always provide a 'better' intake charge, however, there are diminshing gains with it. the difference between 100 and 120 degrees is marginal, but the difference between 80 and 100 degrees is different. kinda getting it?

the blower cars dont need colder air, they need more air. n/a is a different story.

**cleangtp** · 05-05-2010

Originally Posted by Bio248

what? no. colder air will always provide a 'better' intake charge, however, there are diminshing gains with it. the difference between 100 and 120 degrees is marginal, but the difference between 80 and 100 degrees is different. kinda getting it?

the blower cars dont need colder air, they need more air. n/a is a different story.

I do get what you're saying about the blown cars however wouldn't it be a risky thing to do creating more knock on these cars? My gtp only has 82000 miles on it, it's a red coupe. Don't get me wrong I really want to be able to hear the intake and supercharger it's very quiet with stock air box.

I don't know why aftermarket companies haven't made a kit to fit the front grill inserts with a ram. Have it funnel up in back of the headlight where you could have an open cone sitting there. Kinda like the gto inserts but have black funneling tubes to direct air right to the filter. Although it would still be getting hot air from the engine bay it would be getting more air, plus cooler air.

**ZR1Vette09** · 05-05-2010

Originally Posted by cleangtp

I do get what you're saying about the blown cars however wouldn't it be a risky thing to do creating more knock on these cars? My gtp only has 82000 miles on it, it's a red coupe. Don't get me wrong I really want to be able to hear the intake and supercharger it's very quiet with stock air box.

I don't know why aftermarket companies haven't made a kit to fit the front grill inserts with a ram. Have it funnel up in back of the headlight where you could have an open cone sitting there. Kinda like the gto inserts but have black funneling tubes to direct air right to the filter. Although it would still be getting hot air from the engine bay it would be getting more air, plus cooler air.

If I'm understanding you right, you're asking why they haven't made fenderwell intakes in mass? The way you're describing it would have a lot of bends... bends reduce airflow. That's why we say open cone... no bends, not slowing down the air at all. FWI do slow down air.

**cleangtp** · 05-05-2010

Originally Posted by ZR1Vette09

If I'm understanding you right, you're asking why they haven't made fenderwell intakes in mass? The way you're describing it would have a lot of bends... bends reduce airflow. That's why we say open cone... no bends, not slowing down the air at all. FWI do slow down air.

No, I'm not saying have the open cone in line with the ram, I'm saying just have those rams be ducted to rush cold air to an opening right under where the open cone sits. Not being in the fenderwell but just where the stock air box is.

**SilvaMan61** · 05-05-2010

take out drivers side headlight... mission accomplished

**cleangtp** · 05-05-2010

Originally Posted by SilvaMan61

take out drivers side headlight... mission accomplished

Not really, a kit like I've described would be able to be permanent. Therefore eliminating the need to do that at all, while making it street legal.

**SilvaMan61** · 05-05-2010

Originally Posted by cleangtp

Not really, a kit like I've described would be able to be permanent. Therefore eliminating the need to do that at all, while making it street legal.

i get what your saying but doing such a thing on a fwd is redundant because all those bends will retard the air flow.

would you get colder air in? yes would you get more in? yes, when its all said and done however it probably wont be worth it.

**matt5112** · 05-06-2010

Originally Posted by cleangtp

I do get what you're saying about the blown cars however wouldn't it be a risky thing to do creating more knock on these cars? My gtp only has 82000 miles on it, it's a red coupe. Don't get me wrong I really want to be able to hear the intake and supercharger it's very quiet with stock air box.

I don't know why aftermarket companies haven't made a kit to fit the front grill inserts with a ram. Have it funnel up in back of the headlight where you could have an open cone sitting there. Kinda like the gto inserts but have black funneling tubes to direct air right to the filter. Although it would still be getting hot air from the engine bay it would be getting more air, plus cooler air.

So you want to direct the air away from the upper half of your rad which cools your engine to have SLIGHTLY cooler air than a ram air intake?

Have fun!

**Poil336** · 05-06-2010

Originally Posted by cleangtp

I don't know why aftermarket companies haven't made a kit to fit the front grill inserts with a ram.

i know people that have knocked their grills out with a bird. that would suck...

just my 2 cents lol.

other than that, i'm pretty sure i've posted on something like this before. i might look for the thread

**matt5112** · 05-06-2010

Originally Posted by matt5112

So you want to direct the air away from the upper half of your rad which cools your engine to have SLIGHTLY cooler air than a ram air intake?

Have fun!

Originally Posted by Poil336

i know people that have knocked their grills out with a bird. that would suck...

just my 2 cents lol.

other than that, i'm pretty sure i've posted on something like this before. i might look for the thread

See above.