I'll take my 12 y/o GP, relatively straight forward to work on and parts are cheap. Its not to bad on gas either. I enjoy it and I'm really the only modded GP on the forums in town so mine sticks out.
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I have had alot of cars over the years, but my 14 year old,all stock 14.4 sec. $4000 mint condition gtp is pretty darn good.
I've actually tried twice to get a car with a manual again. That Camaro was one of them. But they were deals that just fell through. After driving stick for a long time, it's easy to get bored in an automatic... and accidently hit the huge break pedal when looking for the non-existant clutch. Been there, done that.
Hehehe, slamming your left foot down when starting an automatic. Hehehehe. Do it all the time.
i use the clutch for 1 st gear and reverse, thats it! but i drive a box truck.
cars sometime will let you go clutch less and sometime they will not let you shift at all. well they always come out of gear getting it in the next is the problem.
A lot of bigger trucks are made for clutchless shifting, totally different animals. Cars have synchronizers for a reason. Use them, don't grind the gears when you don't have to.
thats what i was kinda saying, older cars will let you shift with out the clutch but a lot of new cars wont, you need to open the synchro's to get it in gear. aka use the clutch.
The Clutch is what kinda bugs me, having to use that and shifting and all that is what makes it a little bit more harder. If it was clutch less and just shifting with the stick then that would be a whole lot easier. Either way ill look for a cheap ass shift car to practice on, or if a buddy of mine would let me and my bro use theirs. Either way the Auto maybe boring but if you got a 12 sec or lower car then i think i would want a auto, maybe. Other than that the GTP Comp is what im looking for now. You think ill still find them out there somewhere?
youll be able to find a comp G. auto's usually shift faster. but manuals are just hella fun and you get way more control.
manual is just to much work for me these days, when in my car i want it easy.bumper to bumper stop and go traffic sucks big time with a stick to, sure its fun, but the negatives add up fast for me, plus you get to break stuff easier if you ask me. and if you cant drive stick well, that first clutch will be your lesson.
I think you can really be a good drive unless you learned on a man trans.. but thats me.. so you 18 can drive a stick and goona try to make 13's 12's thats gonna hurt the walet.. Id get a old v8 and play with that.. Im hoping to see low 10's otta my sbcgtps a sick cars but no racekare.
i taught 1/2 my town how to drive stick when i was a kid, one guy didn't want to listen to me, or take a free lesson, i drove like a nut, and i dont think he wanted me driving his car, it was a 78 camaro, with built everything, and a 4 speed. after seeing him take off a few times i was like i can help you with that, hes like nah, im good, the next day hes at the bottom of short but steep hill, and it sounded and looked like he was doing an awesome burn out, but to only find out he just killed his clutch.
2 weeks later he got his car back with a brand new clutch installed. he came out looking for me in his dads car because he didn't want to drive it till he learned how to drive it. 1/2 hour later he was golden. it cost him a arm and a leg.
what if... things were backwards with the money I spent on my car, instead of $5K in mods and $30K on the car it was $5K on the car (used) and $30K on mods, what would I have? a 97-03 GTP with lord knows amount of mods, hmmm...
i'd drop this platform if i had 30 grand to spend on mods, for realz.
$30k to drop on a car? I'd buy a '05-06 GTO, put a turbo on it, bank the rest.
I would take that 30k, buy nice used corvette, and S/C it. Thanks for all your guys opinions and ya later we will try to learn how to drive a stick, until then i hope to get a GTP 04+. The GP base is the first car i ever got, well my family ever got, and its way better than the ghetto Honda or camrey we were looking to get.
I am happy we got a GP and i learned so much and how awesome these cars are, Also thanks to this forum we understand our car SO MUCH BETTER.
driving stick is real easy, the trick is to use as little gas pedal while letting the clutch up from a dead start. if your good you can get the car moving with no gas at all, then gas it and go, shifting gears, you let the gas go and push the clutch in at the same time shift gear let clutch back up and then back in the gas. you will be jerking the car till you get good at it, and then it will be smooth with practice.
the hard part for most new stick drivers after learning how to start with out stalling it or burning the clutch is forgetting to shift lol
down shifting witch is fun, is another lesson.
ha ha last year i was driving a old mazda for work (worked for a dealership) going from a highway speeds to a cloverleaf, i down shifted from 4th, missed 3rd gear and put it into first, locked up the tires causing them to screech for about two seconds... good thing it was going to auction lol
whooooops! that's like nailing the brakes lol
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