Is something wrong with my car/suspension?

**Jackblack99** · 03-01-2012

Ok, ive had my car on a lift twice and gave it a good look over and didnt see anything wrong.. But my car seems like it sits higher in front than normal. There is a 1 5/8" height difference front to rear. Is this big of a difference normal!? Here is a pic for refrence

**Scottydoggs** · 03-01-2012

thats the rear end sagging, new struts should fix that.

oh and they all sag in the ass, even my regal.

**tod1d** · 03-01-2012

Looks like your ass end is heavy! got subs?

**Jackblack99** · 03-01-2012

I know they all sag. My dad has had 3 grand prix's ad this is y second one. My first one sagged so i bought brand new gm coils and struts and it still sagged. No subs.. Thats just how it sits. My concern is that if i lower it i dont want it to sit ass down. I want a nice level car.

**Scottydoggs** · 03-01-2012

search around the suspension section, not to long ago (days ago) the same topic came up and i forget what brand they were saying hold the back up better with out the sag.

**Jackblack99** · 03-01-2012

I found a set from SSC that only lower the front but offer more support for the rear incase you have subs or whatever in the rear.

**matt5112** · 03-01-2012

Originally Posted by scottydoggs

thats the rear end sagging, new struts should fix that.

oh and they all sag in the ass, even my regal.

Springs.... Springs support the mass, struts dampen the movement.

Originally Posted by tod1d

Looks like your ass end is heavy! got subs?

They do that on their own.

Originally Posted by Jackblack99

I know they all sag. My dad has had 3 grand prix's ad this is y second one. My first one sagged so i bought brand new gm coils and struts and it still sagged. No subs.. Thats just how it sits. My concern is that if i lower it i dont want it to sit ass down. I want a nice level car.

You know the instant you touch the throttle the rear end squats?

Originally Posted by scottydoggs

search around the suspension section, not to long ago (days ago) the same topic came up and i forget what brand they were saying hold the back up better with out the sag.

Intrigue springs.

Originally Posted by Jackblack99

I found a set from SSC that only lower the front but offer more support for the rear incase you have subs or whatever in the rear.

They lower the rear, but not as much as the standard lowering springs.

**dsmuts** · 03-01-2012

olds intrigue springs level it out.

**Jackblack99** · 03-01-2012

Originally Posted by matt5112; [/QUOTE

You know the instant you touch the throttle the rear end squats

They lower the rear, but not as much as the standard lowering springs.

Yes i know it squats under acceleration. But the car clearly isnt accelerating in the pic. I just dont want that gay ass stance and dont want to drop my money on some springs if its still going to sit that way. My reason for the post was to find out of other guys with stock suspensions have that big of a difference front to rear. Cause almost 2" is a lot in my book. Im not driving a desert running prerunner so i dont want it to sit like one. I just want to know what kind of springs to get that will lower the car but yet net me a nice level stance.

**Jackblack99** · 03-01-2012

And just to clarify.. Im not wanting to raise the rear to get it to set level

**Bio248** · 03-01-2012

the fenders are also not the same shape. measure them.

**Jackblack99** · 03-03-2012

Either way the car seems to sut abnormally high in the front.. Even for a car typically sits ass down.

**matt5112** · 03-03-2012

What size tires are those?

Are you sure those are stock springs?

Measure the distance between the centre of the wheels to the top of the fender.

No one sells just one axle worth of lowering springs.

So if you want to bring the car level, any set of lowering springs should suffice.

If you have any permanent heavy fixtures in the trunk, I'd suggest SSC sound system springs.

**Jackblack99** · 03-03-2012

There isnt anything in the trunk. I dont plan on having a system or anything like that. The tires are too small.. Im just running them for now because they have good tread. They are 245/45/17's. I think im gonna go to a 255/50/17 when i get tires. I was actually looking at the SSC springs you mentioned. I just wanted to get some opinions from others on the stance of my car before i bought springs. If my suspension stance isnt normal i dont want to buy springs. I want to make sure everything is correct before i buy springs.

**matt5112** · 03-03-2012

255/50r17 would have the opposite effect, they're too tall.

The springs are most likely whats causing the issue in combination with your undersized tires.

http://www.grandprixforums.net/want-...ere-28165.html

**jteske88** · 03-03-2012

hate to ask but open the trunk and look at stut mounts and see if rust has eaten away at them, mine was sagging and that what it ended up being

**Jackblack99** · 03-03-2012

I want some tires taller than these. And ill check the mounts. But i would think that if the mounts were rusted they would make some racket... My car doesnt make any noises

**Jackblack99** · 03-04-2012

If the 255/50's will be too big what size should i get? These are shorter than stock, i dont like how short the sidewall is and they make my speedo read incorrectly. I want more tire.. So what size should i go with then?

**matt5112** · 03-04-2012

225/55R17.

More tire is just for looks.

Won't help with traction.

**Jackblack99** · 03-04-2012

Thats why i want a taller tire. I never said anything about traction issues. I want a bigger tire so i have more sidewall and so im the same size or close to stock size so my speedo is correct.... Its a 9" wide wheel. I have plenty of width for traction. Just want a little more height. So why would i go with a 225? Thats narrower than my 245's.