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    i am working on my 2000 grand prix gtp. i had to replace the driver side brake line about 1/2 way down the car through the portioning valve and back to rubber hose. i replaced the line on both sides of the portioning valve, i had no choice it was rotted badly. i used a standard flaring tool. i tightened it down really good but it still leaks bad. i dont think GM used a standard flare inside the portioning valve. how do i fix this thing? can i buy a special tool to make the proper shape of the flare? i had to re-use the old fitting because the new fittings i had that i was using everywhere else were not same size as what was on the portioning valve.
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    I redid my entire brake system, from what I remember I did everything in a double flare except the hard line to flex that goes to the caliper, I did a bubble there. If it leaks your A. wrong flare B. Not complete flare C. Pits in sealing surface/rust D. Not tight enough. I reused both of mine and not one drop of fluid. The correct fitting must also be used (reusing old isnt a good idea)

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    what is the correct fitting? i know its not the same as the other fittings. when i bought line i bought a coil if it, make and bend my own lines not buy the straight lengths they sell. as far as the line itself i am only replacing it up to where the line is solid again. the car isnt really rotted but it will be after a few more winters. winters around here are aweful. the car runs and drives fairly well so i just want to keep it going for a few more year. my summer vehicle is a 1996 camaro Z28 and i gotta have something to drive in the winter. hence i really dont want to spend too much time or money on the grand prix. i like these cars but if the vehicle is rotted or starting to get rotted i wont spend too much time or effort on it. in this climate rusted out junk is everywhere and its barely worth fixing. if it was a super clean example sure i would spend all the time and money and replace the entire line the whole length. in the future i might buy another GTP but a cream puff, and part out my current car.
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    at any rate thanks for the info i think i used the wrong type of flare. i usually dont replace brakes lines and try to get rid of a car before they go bad, if the brake lines are shot typically the rest of the car is also starting to get rotted
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    for fittings I just brought in the part and test fitted them, 3/16 line
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    alot of newer cars are bubble flare, faster production as you basically skip the second step of a true 45" double flare.

    basically you can use the std "flare kits" but just do the first step, and burnish the fitting upon installation/prior to installation, i.e. tighten/loosen/tighten/loosen/tighten to make sure of a good seal and final forming to the oem junk.

    always forgo brass hardware for steel , brass is really too soft but it does conform well if your stuck with a particularly ****ty rental tool like i see at most places nowadays. tis a damn shame.

    make sure you ask for anything behind the counter....find your old timey shops (old carquests/napa's etc...and youll likely find drawers full of all the nifty fittings you could ever need.
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