Ha! My 2 12's and 1k watts killed anything that came into my class. And I was built for everyday listening. 150db on termlab mic @42hz. It was mainly built for drive by spl which is where the mic is placed 6ft outside from the vehicle. Placed 2nd in the world @ world finals only to be beat by 3-12L7s and kicker ZR1000 by .1 db. Now I could o on for days about W7s if you want lol. They were the loudest and cleanest subs I have heard to date. Not to mention that we put them in 3 different vehicles before they were laid to rest. 2-MTX1500Ds finally killed them lol. But hey, to each his own!