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    who gives a ****ing rats ass about reflections?

    You aren't even mounting the speakers on axis so its already ****ed up to start with.

    Who cares about what crossover frequencies you choose if you won't hear it properly anyways? Just do fourth order Linkwitz-riely x-overs to maximize power handling and forget about it.

    Reflections shouldn't matter if you mount your speakers far enough away from surfaces that cause them.

    Example: lots of people say use mats on your dash, I tried it, no effect since my speakers are on the front lip of the dash.

    The ONLY change in the sound I have from windows up or down is baffle step around 300-500 Hz since my midwoofers are right beside the windows.

    I plan to move them so the baffle step remains constant regardless of window position.

    If you're on axis with your drivers, reflections aren't that bad at all.

    Try it yourself before you assume that all these people are telling the truth.

    These are the same people who CHOOSE to mount their speakers facing each other right beside the windsheild instead of on axis.

    Quote Originally Posted by I800C0LLECT View Post
    I'll admit, I don't believe our vehicles have are opportune for kick panels but some vehicles work very well for that application. I'm still trying to figure out a "good" installation for our vehicles. I really don't wanna go through the process of deadening doors n' such.

    My a/d/s/ speakers use a 6db slope for the mid so I'm wondering how well they'd work with a tweeter in the A-pillar. I believe the tweeter is a 12db slope.
    Who uses the factory crossovers?

    Better yet, who uses passive crossovers these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    who gives a ****ing rats ass about reflections?
    Do you realize how poorly glass reflects the music? You realize how much that can screw up your sound?

    You aren't even mounting the speakers on axis so its already ****ed up to start with.
    What dream do you live in that everybody can mount speakers in the same manner as you? Last I remember, you were laughed out of a thread after posting your "install". Some people are trying to maximize performance without showing the world their hardware.


    Who cares about what crossover frequencies you choose if you won't hear it properly anyways? Just do fourth order Linkwitz-riely x-overs to maximize power handling and forget about it.
    "...won't hear it properly..." Speaker and listening characteristics are subjective to each individual. Cross overs are very important when choosing raw drivers and install locations. Come on matt, you're not an idiot.


    Reflections shouldn't matter if you mount your speakers far enough away from surfaces that cause them.
    Do I need to refer back to that troll of an install you maintain? Again, locations appeal to people for cosmetic reasons too. You can make many locations sound very good when installed and crossed correctly.

    The idea is to help individuals with what THEY WANT. Don't just barrade them because they didn't follow your installation ideas perfectly.


    Example: lots of people say use mats on your dash, I tried it, no effect since my speakers are on the front lip of the dash.
    I wasn't talking about that and I've never brought it up. Let's talk about what I said...not most people.



    The ONLY change in the sound I have from windows up or down is baffle step around 300-500 Hz since my midwoofers are right beside the windows.
    I'm not gonna revisit your install again...


    I plan to move them so the baffle step remains constant regardless of window position.
    Good luck. Perhaps you'll be able to post your trials.



    If you're on axis with your drivers, reflections aren't that bad at all.

    Try it yourself before you assume that all these people are telling the truth.

    These are the same people who CHOOSE to mount their speakers facing each other right beside the windsheild instead of on axis.
    Attempting to simplify car audio into "on axis" vs. "everybody else is stupid" is pretty narrow minded. I think you've been tainted by that audio site you frequent. Sometimes the acquisition of knowledge can retard progress.

    Due to our limited understanding of sounds and our inability to maintain the equipment necessary to understand our personal vehicles acoustic environment; car audio will always amount to trial and error. I agree that on-axis dismisses a lot of variables but some of us aren't keen on your install Matt.




    Who uses the factory crossovers?

    Better yet, who uses passive crossovers these days?
    Most people use the cross overs that come with their speakers. My configuration doesn't allow me a 6db slope unless I use those passives. However, my tweeter is in the stock location and therefore I need a steeper slope. But, if a/d/s/ was assuming most locations would utilize a good distance between tweets and mids then 6db slopes might be opportune for matching the midrange freq's with the tweets. If that were the case, it might allow a possible on-axis A pillar install while keeping mids in the doors. Anyways...it's all just thought and theory. You never know until you put it in and tune...
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