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  1. #1 reducing burst knock 
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    I've taken a few scans of my car and seem to have a bit of kr. I'm wondering if it is burst knock because I have cut timing a few times with no noticeable effect. One person suggested to 0 out the burst knock table because it isn't real knock. The only problem is that he can't remember what tables he adjusted and I don't see an LS4 specific guide on what tables to change and what to change them to. here is a screen shot of the knock retard page in my tune:

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    How's the lower motor mount or trans mount? I had random knock all over with my regal that couldn't be tuned out. Turns out it was a bad motor mount. Once I fixed it, no more kr
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    Log Burst knock if you think it's what is happening.

    Base vs cylinder air delta is the main table. Cut it in half or more, or just remove it all.

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    will the burst knock retard show up as actual knock retard? I'll try logging it first and see what it shows.

    I haven't checked my motor mounts yet, but it could be worn
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    It will show up on both knock retard and burst knock if you log them. There should even be a type of knock retard you can log to see what the computer is saying I think.

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    I just cloned my knock retard graph and replaced the knock retard with burst knock.
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    What?

    Not sure what you are doing. I was just saying to log both knock retard and burst knock in the main channel display. See what it says when you take a log. Likely you'll end up just zeroing out the burst knock table so it's a non factor while tuning.

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    I understand
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    I added burst knock to my graph and chart, and only saw .1. I wonder if something is loose because I cut several degrees of timing and it didn't seem to affect the kr much.
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    Post the file and log in a drop box or something so they can be viewed.

    I don't think you can add attachments on this forum but you might be able to.

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    I'll start a thread on hp tuners forum
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    what's the PID for logging burst knock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mguzzo View Post
    what's the PID for logging burst knock?
    It's only going to work if you own a LS type vehicle. Burst knock is not used on a 3800.

    It would just be labeled burst knock in the main channels list.

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