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    holy ripoff batman. $400 bucks to splice a fuel line ? you coulda bought the whole line from the engine back for about 160...i know because i did ...or you coulda bought the dorman repair kit and ran nylon lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EHBGoober View Post
    holy ripoff batman. $400 bucks to splice a fuel line ? you coulda bought the whole line from the engine back for about 160...i know because i did ...or you coulda bought the dorman repair kit and ran nylon lines.
    http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-800-300.../dp/B000XQ5IO4
    it was replaced with a steel fuel line but that's what i get for not being able to do the work myself... and you think that's bad? i paid $7k for an 02 gp... last yr... $7k for a 97-03 wbody in 2014, i made some stupid choices but whatever, over the last year I've been debating on what to do whether to try to sell this car or start modding it but i guess it's time to pull the trigger on starting work on the car and buying a beater for the summer, i don't know anyone that'll pay me even $5k for this car sooo here we go
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    I give the transmission a month to live, then you'll shell out another 2000-3000 bucks and we are at the 7k mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    I give the transmission a month to live, then you'll shell out another 2000-3000 bucks and we are at the 7k mark.
    a month at like 260 whp? a bit extreme you don't think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ89 View Post
    it was replaced with a steel fuel line but that's what i get for not being able to do the work myself... and you think that's bad? i paid $7k for an 02 gp... last yr... $7k for a 97-03 wbody in 2014, i made some stupid choices but whatever, over the last year I've been debating on what to do whether to try to sell this car or start modding it but i guess it's time to pull the trigger on starting work on the car and buying a beater for the summer, i don't know anyone that'll pay me even $5k for this car sooo here we go
    i would at least suggest finding a more honest mechanic. the fuel lines are dealership only items. i replaced all 3 of mine in december. the feed line i paid $165 shipped and found the return and evap line at a local dealership , both for $259. if the mechanic took his good ole sweet time he had an hour , maybe 1.5 hours if he had to change the quick connect , invested in it.
    so with that said you were paying about $200 an hour labor .

    and 7 G's for an 02 is just insane. it would be a good idea for you to start doing a little research before you open your wallet and hand out money. get estimates and shop around before buying.

    as for your transmission , keep in mind it already has 13 years of wear on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EHBGoober View Post
    i would at least suggest finding a more honest mechanic. the fuel lines are dealership only items. i replaced all 3 of mine in december. the feed line i paid $165 shipped and found the return and evap line at a local dealership , both for $259. if the mechanic took his good ole sweet time he had an hour , maybe 1.5 hours if he had to change the quick connect , invested in it.
    so with that said you were paying about $200 an hour labor .

    and 7 G's for an 02 is just insane. it would be a good idea for you to start doing a little research before you open your wallet and hand out money. get estimates and shop around before buying.

    as for your transmission , keep in mind it already has 13 years of wear on it.
    well when i bought it i bought a lemon of a bonnie, and it was the summer before senior year of high school and i actually needed a car to get to and from school, it was pretty difficult junior year with an unreliable van and later the bonneville, so i was a little bit desperate, the car was a 1 owner car, very little rust (most likely stored for winter), the thing was in ideal shape at a solid 77 or 75k miles.... tried to negotiate with the guy (i even brought a negotiator) but he wouldn't go down, i said alright whatever and bought it... now about a year and a half (and 1 minor accident... buy snow tires) later this is the first true mechanical problem with the car
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    john take a look at this car and you'll realize just how crappy the deal was you got ... NEVER get desperate when buying a car...there's too many for sale to get desperate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EHBGoober View Post
    john take a look at this car and you'll realize just how crappy the deal was you got ... NEVER get desperate when buying a car...there's too many for sale to get desperate.
    pics... https://drive.google.com/folderview?...lU&usp=sharing
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    aawwwwwwwwwwhhhh why do things that happen to stupid people happen to me?
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    A turbo will make more than 260 whp, unless you are only running like 5 pounds of boost. The turbo is better at making the power compared to a M90 blower. Most kits will run atleast 10-15 lbs and make 350-400+ whp without even batting an eye.

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    Stock tranny would probably be a stock z3 kit. Should hold up all right if not abused.
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    the stock precision 6262 that zzp uses in the z3 and z7 kit comes at 6.5 pounds, on an l67 it'll probably make right around 260-280ish with as conservative tune as possible, id never cross the 300 mark on stock tranny because i know 1 hard launch and that's a wrap for the tranny, 280 would be pushing it probably at 250 or 260 i can squeeze out enough time for me to no longer daily the car, buy a beater and start saving up for the trans
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    A turbo will make more than 260 whp, unless you are only running like 5 pounds of boost. The turbo is better at making the power compared to a M90 blower. Most kits will run atleast 10-15 lbs and make 350-400+ whp without even batting an eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJOUIE View Post
    Stock tranny would probably be a stock z3 kit. Should hold up all right if not abused.
    yup at 6.5 pounds it should hold up for a little while as long as i dont beat up on it, i try not to beat up on the trans even with stock 200 whp, no burnouts i do my best not to even squeal the tires (which it shouldn't with 200 whp but i got **** tires)
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