Funny that Pacecrappers are like $400 and they're 1 7/8". The old TOG X's were that big, too.
$2k? I can buy a GTP and build a motor for $2k, total. lolllll.
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08-07-2015
Funny that Pacecrappers are like $400 and they're 1 7/8". The old TOG X's were that big, too.
$2k? I can buy a GTP and build a motor for $2k, total. lolllll.
08-07-2015
Lol, ceramic coated Pacesetters! FTW!
but I am going to weld them, lolz...
eventually!
if I ever get that built engine in my damn car, lmao!
08-07-2015
there are a lot of things that could be done for 2000. the zzp headers for 800 are 1 5/8
08-07-2015
thats not what it says on their website.
Simply put, these are the best headers money can buy for the 3800 platform. Perfect fitment, 100% stainless steel, simple installation, complete. These are a must have for anyone with a goal of 300+whp! 1 3/4" primaries and a 3" exit.
08-07-2015
for some reason i thought they were 1 5/8. i guess 1 3/4 is better
08-07-2015
1 5/8 is the stock size manifold primaries. SD's might be 1 5/8
08-07-2015
hopefully my wife doesn't get mad that i got the used of zzp's headers
08-07-2015
hopefully they fix your leaking problem...lol..glad to see you didn't give up on the car. i'm also so glad i didn't buy the SD headers...whew.
08-07-2015
If you have the money get the ZZPs, everyone that I have known that had them loved them.
In my opinion they are probably the best headers we have available.
They fit unlike most of the others.
They bolt in unlike TOGs.
They don't leak like Pace****ters and SDs do.
Originally Posted by The Sunfire Guy
08-07-2015
Yes but stainless steel > mild steel.
Originally Posted by The Sunfire Guy
08-07-2015
wife told me to fix it, so that is what im going to tell her for justification.
08-07-2015
oh my...you purchased them without consulting the boss ? this could end badly for you my friend ...
08-07-2015
i kind of did talk to her, we talked about either fixing it or parting the car out and moving on to a different project. she said to fix it instead of parting the car out. i showed her all the different options starting with a power log downpipe combo and ended with the 900 dollar zzp headers.
i thought this was the best option
08-08-2015
OMG that weld is atrocious! lolDo this:
Just do it better lol. Horrible welds but I'm leak free. Even with band clamps mine would leak at the downpipe slip joints. Every time your engine moves it stresses this joints. Mine came loose too many times.
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08-08-2015
i think stevie wonder did the welding...
08-08-2015
I promise you that's not sealed. x-ray would prove that, but then again it's probably to insignificant to make a difference.i think stevie wonder did the welding...
I remember my first weld.
Kidding tho..
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08-08-2015
I bet that was a huge pain to weld, and I bet the rear crossover junction still leaks
08-09-2015
I bet it leaks less than yours :P. I pressurized the pipe and sprayed with soap. Kept stacking them dimes until it stopped leaking. That's what it means by "stacking dimes", right? Well, I probably got about $62.50 worth in the middle weld alone!
But I don't hear it resonating in the drive up lane, and my wideband hangs around 14.7 instead of 15.1-5 when it leaked. Good enough for me but no way in hell I'd buy these headers again.
08-09-2015
thats stacking snot, not dimes lol
a grinder would have helped that, then a re weld. 10 lb welds lol
08-09-2015
Do you wax your butthole? Ask me if I care what I'll never see looks like lol. It doesn't leak now, tested as well as I could with blower in tailpipe and while running with hand. And it passes the McDonald's drive through test. The welds will rust out in 2 years or less likely, then I'll reevaluate.
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