You need a case or just the snout or both?
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12-10-2008
You need a case or just the snout or both?
12-10-2008
both. I think i have a bead on one ATM, but i appreciate everything.
On a side note, you gonna be at the next meet?
12-11-2008
I always plan to be there, but coordinating that with my wifes work schedule is often a bear.
12-11-2008
So how do you plan on turning the SC from the backside? There is nothing to drive the SC.
12-11-2008
It will be just like the maggie setups for the corvette.Originally Posted by Merlin
12-11-2008
Not familiar, but will look into it.
But what are you trying to gain? You are using the same SC, so I would imagine you would not gain much HP.
Looked at them, and now I see what you mean. Seems like a lot of fab work to get it done. And I would imagine you would have to fab up your own cog pulley as well and run a short cog belt.
12-11-2008
I threw this setup in my camaro with an xp cam, headers and stock pulley and the car ran a working tune 13.63 @ 103.
I could list the ricer excuses to why such a low time, but the car ran that on 5psi. There is something to be said about a car that is 800 lighter and rwd to make use of this engine.
just trying to make a more "space efficient" s/c than my last one.
12-11-2008
But in regards to your original question of turning the snout over, I think you might be able to do it. But I would think that you would have to swap the positions of the rotors in the pack, then flip the entire thing over. Not sure, as I don't have any in front of me as well. But might be possible. But like I said, I think you would have to switch the positions of the rotors so they would push the air in the correct direction. Hmmm....
12-11-2008
This would be a sick setup but all that fabrication makes my head hurt.
12-11-2008
i would just pull the snout/rotor combo out and shove it in to the case turned 180* this wouldnt effect the twist of the rotors and only change the direction the pulley needs to spin to compress air through the outlet. as long as the bolts can go back in to secure the snout to the housing, then i would be all set.
in reguards to fabrication, its a case of dissasembling the snout and chopping it down. then i would machine out the nose to fit the bearing back into and chop down the snout shaft to the correct height. take off the snout fins and that part would be done.
after that, i would make two brackets that had bearings pressed into them and run a ss shaft through it with two pullies on it. voila`
12-11-2008
So you doing a set up like they have for the GTO's? The s/c sitts backwards, a shaft runs from front to rear to drive the s/c? Just trying to get a picture of what your doing. Sounds like a sweet set up though.
12-11-2008
yep. just a few odds and ends to sort out, including having enough space to run the jackshaft with said design.
12-11-2008
Sweet project, I like the idea. I would think that you'd gain some power from doing this seeing as you'd definitely have a much straighter intake, it might not be much but hey at least it's something.
12-11-2008
Do you think you could run two shafts with some sort of small spider type gear on the connecting ends so the s/c would still spin the correct way. Or would that end up robbing the power the s/c makes?
12-11-2008
sounds like a violation of the KISS law.
too many moving parts with too many chances of failure.
12-11-2008
True. You really have me thinking about it. Just throwing out any option I can think of.
Last edited by BADAZGTP; 12-11-2008 at 09:48 PM.
12-11-2008
Another thought, your running the serpentine set up right? So there should be a idler or belt tensioner pulley spinning the direction you need. I believe the front tensioner pulley does. Could run a double pulley there. Or if your shaft runs right above a pulley that isn't, you could get a longer belt and route it around the shaft pulley to where it would turn the right way. Would all be on how you route the belt over the extra pulley for it to turn the right way and still be on all the other's like it should. Then you'll have you one piece shaft and you don't have to worry about trying to flip the snout. Sorry if this sounds confussing or what not. I am more of a hands on type and it's hard for me to explain how I would do it. I ussually just get out and experiment until I get it like I want.
12-11-2008
which pulley are you reffering to that rotates backwards from the traditional rotation direction?
if i had a way to route a belt to do that, then i would be set. i still need the grove side of the belt to touch the pulley.
edit. i bet you could put a pulley on it that was groved and go from there.
12-11-2008
When I get home from work tomorrow, I look at mine and draw up how the belts are ran around the pulleys and see if I can get it to run the way you want. Unless you get a chance to do it first. Right now it's dark and rainy out. Once I get it, I'll see if there is a way I can get it on here. Talk with you again then.
12-11-2008
I love this pic.
here is a picture of the front of the engine. The green line is the routing right now. You could use this pict for now.
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