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    Lol if I were in your position, I'd just go balls deep in the XPZ build, and with the coin saved from not doing the vs build, get a good trans. However, i still understand and respect what you're doing. Granted I've seen mostly turbo guys with the XPZ cam, but they still report good street manners and about stock, or slightly less mpg.(I have the NIC cam with the more aggressive idle and I still consider it good street manners).

    From what others have said on the board, even with the higher pressure, the 105's are easier on the chain than 90's. However I had a 1.9 HS rockers with ls6 springs for about 100k and when I did the NIC swap, the stock chain had little wear considering the rockers and springs choice. If you're looking for 240-250whp on 91, the VS cam *should* work considering if you'll have a 3.4 setup and other supporting mods. E85 could be a good game changer for you, and could easily gain you some power over the other cams instead of going with a VS. however I have no personal experience with it, so I'd ask other members about it who actually use it.

    In a nutshell, I'd suggest doing this for cost effectiveness, an going along with what you're looking for.

    Vs cam
    L76 springs(about the same, if not cheaper than ls6 springs, and offer less wear on the chain)
    Ls retainers
    stock lifters *should* be good if they only have 100k, the vs cam isn't that aggressive and as long as the stock lifters are in good shape you could keep them. But FYI ls7 lifters are awesome and cost about $100.
    Ported blower outlet
    slp headers
    180 tstat
    104 AL plugs, or any other same heat range plugs
    E85 would be sweet
    and whatever pulley you can safely run with 16-18 degrees of total advance wot timing. However all cars are different and may like more or less timing.
    Get the bigger injectors. You can tune them with 250whp, and this way you'll be a tune away from running e85, instead of doing that and swapping injectors.

    Trans. Rock the stocker for as long as you can with a good shift kit and a cooler. The next cost effective way would be a "basic" TK trans. Which goes for about $1300 shipped, no core. (that's about what I paid). I'm not a fan of junkyard transmissions, unless you know for sure it's a low mileage one. Anything more than 50k I'd pass on. I just don't want to take the risk, but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wotgtp View Post
    Lol if I were in your position, I'd just go balls deep in the XPZ build, and with the coin saved from not doing the vs build, get a good trans. However, i still understand and respect what you're doing. Granted I've seen mostly turbo guys with the XPZ cam, but they still report good street manners and about stock, or slightly less mpg.(I have the NIC cam with the more aggressive idle and I still consider it good street manners).

    From what others have said on the board, even with the higher pressure, the 105's are easier on the chain than 90's. However I had a 1.9 HS rockers with ls6 springs for about 100k and when I did the NIC swap, the stock chain had little wear considering the rockers and springs choice. If you're looking for 240-250whp on 91, the VS cam *should* work considering if you'll have a 3.4 setup and other supporting mods. E85 could be a good game changer for you, and could easily gain you some power over the other cams instead of going with a VS. however I have no personal experience with it, so I'd ask other members about it who actually use it.

    In a nutshell, I'd suggest doing this for cost effectiveness, an going along with what you're looking for.

    Vs cam
    L76 springs(about the same, if not cheaper than ls6 springs, and offer less wear on the chain)
    Stock retainers
    stock lifters *should* be good if they only have 100k, the vs cam isn't that aggressive and as long as the stock lifters are in good shape you could keep them. But FYI ls7 lifters are awesome and cost about $100.
    Ported blower outlet
    slp headers
    180 tstat
    104 AL plugs, or any other same heat range plugs
    E85 would be sweet
    and whatever pulley you can safely run with 16-18 degrees of total advance wot timing. However all cars are different and may like more or less timing.

    Trans. Rock the stocker for as long as you can with a good shift kit and a cooler. The next cost effective way would be a "basic" TK trans. Which goes for about $1300 shipped, no core. (that's about what I paid). I'm not a fan of junkyard transmissions, unless you know for sure it's a low mileage one. Anything more than 50k I'd pass on. I just don't want to take the risk, but that's just me.

    Haha i wish man but i plan on keeping my 40th and the GTX with the agressive build and go balls out and E85 on it as well as a dry shot of nos which i have waiting for it lol

    i would love and have been debating for mods on e 85 but it is my dd and there isnt enough stations for when i make a trip idc about mileage as long as there is stations which i dont have. which sucks balls.

    I have LS7 lifters but for the XPZ lol
    Everything you listed is in the plan of what i originaly was going to put on so we are good on that.
    Should i go with the L76 springs or keep my Yellow 90s?
    was planning on doing a shift kit and hardened 4th and of course fluids should that be enough for it?

    Thanks for the Help by the way
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