this is my daily driver. im not looking to make it into a race car. i just want a little more. what are some websites that i could look at for these parts? injector suggestions?
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10-05-2008
this is my daily driver. im not looking to make it into a race car. i just want a little more. what are some websites that i could look at for these parts? injector suggestions?
Last edited by keenan00gtp; 10-05-2008 at 08:56 PM.
10-05-2008
10-05-2008
Id start with an intake, Cold air inductions is my recommendation but most people have experience on here with a Wizaired.Originally Posted by keenan00gtp
Second a PCM, you could either get a generic v1.0 or you could have one programed for you after you are "done" modding your car. If the latter then save this step for later.
Ported front manifold aka a plog. If you plan on modding further in the future get headers instead.
Get a larger downpipe, 3" is recommended for our vehicles. [again not needed of you get headers.]
Then you could also get a colder thermostat [180* only $10].
All the above is less then $600 assuming you go with the plog and Dp instead of the headers.
10-05-2008
DNA has the right ideas... but a few things id like to add.
1. You can go a lot cheaper than the Wizaired. Make you own fenderwell intake (FWI)/cold air intake (CAI), for around $50 to $75.
2. Id recommend a PCM from either Intense or Overkill. ZZP has had some problems with their lately.
3.Ported front manifold is NOT a plog. yes they are similar but they are different. Ported manifolds are just as it says.... help a lil with KR and on top end (if any), where a Powerlog or plog is a welded manifold that has true diameter piping through-out and a better option than the ported manifold. Get headers and not worry about either one
4. Downpipe...people will argue about this till the cows come home. yes the 3in dp's are good if you have a 3inch exhaust from the downpipe and catback, otherwise you have a bottleneck as the larger amount of exhaust gas is forced into a smaller diameter piping(stock is 2.5in). Unless you make alot of power got with the 2.5 dp. IMO id go with a 2.5 dp just to make things flow better, but its up to you.
5. Thermostat....a 180* stat is a good choice, but id make sure that the PCM has it programmed in(most aftermarket ones already do),if its not the car will run a lil hotter while sitting in traffic. Since the stock stat is programmed @ 195*.
6. A colder set of spark plugs wil help with KR. Autolite 605's for stock gp's or 104's for lightly modded gp's.
All of this should run under $500 if you do all the labor yourself.
Last edited by Bogers99GTP; 10-05-2008 at 11:44 PM.
10-06-2008
Yes true thanks for pointing that out, kind of like the difference between a ported throttle body and one of ZZPs high velocity tb's. Both for the same purpose but are different products. [and plog is better then ported front manifold]
And yea as i mentioned the headers would be the better choice if you have the time and money. Only two problems with that are price and instillation difficulty. If you have little mechanical experience they are a bit more difficult to put in then people think. This your DD and you don't need it being out of commission for a long time.
The plog and DP are two separate parts so therefore can both be installed at separate times.
Also if you plan on purchasing headers make sure you get a name/type that people have had experience with. Last thing you want is a set of headers that you have to fabricate for a while trying to get them not to leak. Hell i have even known pacesetters to cause a bit of problems with leaking and they are the most common headers on here.
10-06-2008
What would it take to install headers? (Time, money, supplies?)
10-06-2008
I really hate giving estimations about time but i would say its in the ballpark of three hours. Could be done in as little as 1 1\2 i would imagine or well over 3 hours [rusty, bolt breaks etc]. Please don't think this is something you can just smack like you see in horsepower TV or something. Where they say "now were going to install the headers, all you have to do is remove the old front and rear manifolds...blah blah blah and then install the new ones and your done" 30 seconds later. Many things to be careful of, which i could list if you are actually considering investing the time and $.
Money, it depends on which namebrand you buy. The paesetters from ZZP start at $360. Their higher model stainless headers stat at $700. The Other Guys headers go for $750.
Supplies, some one who has actually installed these would be better to comment on this.
10-14-2008
What's a good tuner to buy? Can it be bought cheap, like off of ebay or something?
10-14-2008
I have had the pacesetters and have had the zzp stainless 700 dollar headers. Both leak both need improvements. ZZP's are way better in workmanship and quality and leak FAR less than the pacesetters.
ZZP's are actually the same price as the togs because you have to buy a dp and it is not included like it is in the tog's package.
I had no leaking issues with the p-log and DP setup with the stock rear manifold.
Install time for headers? If you're setup is stock right now then plan on around 4hrs if you kinda know what your doing, can of PB Blaster and some broken bolts.
10-05-2008
How hard is it to put in the dp and plogs?
10-05-2008
A plog is a bolt in part (not too bad) you just have to remove to stock manifold off and bolt the plog in its place. Just becareful about the oil dipstick tube. Most people bend them and have to replace them, just remove it before removing the stock manifold, then put it back in after you install the plog. The dp can be a bolt-in unit or if you get a shorty dp it has to be welded in.
10-05-2008
would most dps fit a borla exhaust? there all universal arnt they?
10-05-2008
Yes. If you get lets say a 2.5 or 3in dp catted dp, it will bolt up right up to the catback and headers. If it is catless it will bolt-up as well. Just make sure if you go the catless route, that its legal in your state (emissions). Did you have any issues bolting the catback to the cat on your car? If not, then you should'nt have any problems. If you get a shorty, it has to be welded to your cat. It has a flange to bolt up to the headers.
10-06-2008
it was easy. im going with the 3" i think and the front plog. will this be enuff to reduce kr if i get a 3.4" pulley also? how small or big should i go?
10-05-2008
When i was on the "plog" hyperlink it had front or front and rear. which should i go with?
10-05-2008
Just the front. The rear are for turbo setups. The rear manifold are as restrictive as the front one is.
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