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  1. #1 Zzp downpipe again. 
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    Ok one last q for u guys before I buy one of these. Is it worth spending the extra money to get the high flow cat, or is no cat better?
    '97 BLACK GTP--Chrome K&N CAI--3.5" MPS--3" RT Cat Downpipe--180*Tstat--Tuned PCM--Alpine 9886--Kicker Amp - 2 12" Kicker L7's--ALT boost&rewire
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    No cat is better [performing] if you do not have an emissions test to pass. Some even say the high flow cat flows worse then the stock cat but i have not seen any data supporting this.
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    ok, so getting the o2 emulator, and a 304 SS catless 3" bolt-in downpipe is better then running the 304 SS 3" bolt-in downpipe with cat?
    '97 BLACK GTP--Chrome K&N CAI--3.5" MPS--3" RT Cat Downpipe--180*Tstat--Tuned PCM--Alpine 9886--Kicker Amp - 2 12" Kicker L7's--ALT boost&rewire
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    no emissions testing in MN, so im guessing catless is the way to go?
    '97 BLACK GTP--Chrome K&N CAI--3.5" MPS--3" RT Cat Downpipe--180*Tstat--Tuned PCM--Alpine 9886--Kicker Amp - 2 12" Kicker L7's--ALT boost&rewire
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    Also, How does catless sound with stock exhaust? I don't want to get something that sounds like a cat that stuck in a bag or something... Also anyone know how bad cabin drone is?
    '97 BLACK GTP--Chrome K&N CAI--3.5" MPS--3" RT Cat Downpipe--180*Tstat--Tuned PCM--Alpine 9886--Kicker Amp - 2 12" Kicker L7's--ALT boost&rewire
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    Quote Originally Posted by adidasdude1061 View Post
    Also, How does catless sound with stock exhaust? I don't want to get something that sounds like a cat that stuck in a bag or something... Also anyone know how bad cabin drone is?
    As long as you have the stock mufflers and resonator you shouldn't have to worry about any drone.
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    does the car sound better with the res delete only? Cat delete only? Or still sound good w/ both gone?
    '97 BLACK GTP--Chrome K&N CAI--3.5" MPS--3" RT Cat Downpipe--180*Tstat--Tuned PCM--Alpine 9886--Kicker Amp - 2 12" Kicker L7's--ALT boost&rewire
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    without a cat youre going to get a lot of rasp unless you actively combat it with a bigger resonator and stock mufflers.

    id keep it if i were you. it smells like you have no cat, so people can tell. it sounds worse without it. your bumper and tips will accumulate soot as well.
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    Next q then, How do you get rid of the resonator? Resonator is just the sound reducer right?
    '97 BLACK GTP--Chrome K&N CAI--3.5" MPS--3" RT Cat Downpipe--180*Tstat--Tuned PCM--Alpine 9886--Kicker Amp - 2 12" Kicker L7's--ALT boost&rewire
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    Quote Originally Posted by adidasdude1061 View Post
    Next q then, How do you get rid of the resonator? Resonator is just the sound reducer right?
    As far as i know yes, you get rid of it by cutting it out and replacing it with straight pipe.

    I suggest going on youtube if you are concerned with sound. Type in gtp exhaust note or something to that effect. If you are concerned with performance the best setup i know of is headers, no cat and 2.5" cat back. Borla is most recommended on this site. In your case you would get the 3" downpipe instead of headers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adidasdude1061 View Post
    Next q then, How do you get rid of the resonator? Resonator is just the sound reducer right?
    If you are going to get rid of the stock resonator, then I would advise you to put a pretty big glass pack to put in place of it or else you are going to hate the rasp.
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    ok, then no res or cat delete for me then. I would rather have less loud crap sound, then quiet decent sound, until I can afford some mufflers or exhaust system. What are some good mufflers and tips, other than the Flowmaster 40's?
    '97 BLACK GTP--Chrome K&N CAI--3.5" MPS--3" RT Cat Downpipe--180*Tstat--Tuned PCM--Alpine 9886--Kicker Amp - 2 12" Kicker L7's--ALT boost&rewire
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    This thread and this thread should provide you the information you need to make an informed decision.
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    I am getting the FLowmasters next weekend I think
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    dont get flowmasters. they are awful. my car drones a lot. im going back to stock mufflers so all i hear is whine.
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