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    Quote Originally Posted by silver86 View Post
    Maybe this is it then. It doesn't seem to do it when i'm in 1st gear and it hits second. Its only if i'm already cursing on the highway and let it drop down to second it spikes to 4-5 but then rapidly drops to zero.

    So would this be considered false knock? My gp just started doing this after the trans swap but i think it could be due to a "not-so-good" tune...

    2004 GTP - TEP TRANS, INTERCOOLER, 3.0, AND PLENTY OF KR...
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    So I decided to put on the 3.1 pulley and tuned it a little. Here is a quick scan I did on the way to work. The car was at full temp as I had been driving it for about 45mins.
    Device Time Engine RPM(rpm) Knock Retard(Deg.) Timing Advance(°) Throttle Position(Manifold)(%) H2OS Sensor(mV) Speed (OBD)(mph)
    09:33.6 3916.5 0.791016 19 62.35294 - 70.83632
    09:34.0 3916.5 0 19 100 911.4 70.83632
    09:34.5 4750.75 0 19.5 100 911.4 74.56454
    09:35.1 4947.25 0 19.5 100 924.42 78.29277
    09:35.5 5160.5 0 19.5 100 924.42 82.021
    09:36.1 5160.5 0 19.5 100 920.08 82.021
    09:36.6 5285 0 19 100 933.1 85.12785
    09:37.0 4164.25 0 18.5 100 933.1 87.61333
    09:37.5 3963.75 0 18.5 100 924.42 89.47746

    Here is another scan I did on the way home and the tune was the same. But notice the knock? Maybe the IC was heat soaked from driving on the highway for 1hr.
    Any ideas why it would start to knock out of nowhere?
    Device Time Engine RPM(rpm) Knock Retard(Deg.) Timing Advance(°) Throttle Position(Manifold)(%) H2OS Sensor(mV) Speed (OBD)(mph) O2 Volts Bank 1 sensor 1(V)
    53:33.0 5061.5 0 19.5 100 941.78 43.49598 -
    53:33.5 5460.5 0 19 100 941.78 47.84558 -
    53:34.1 5875 0 18 100 946.12 50.95244 -
    53:34.5 4245 0 18 100 941.78 50.95244 -
    53:35.0 4245 1.142578 19 100 937.44 56.54478 -
    53:35.5 4258.75 1.142578 17 100 937.44 60.89438 -
    53:36.0 4372 1.582031 17 100 937.44 64.6226 -
    53:36.5 4491.25 2.548828 17 100 933.1 68.97221 -
    53:37.0 4666.5 3.955078 16 100 937.44 68.97221 -
    53:37.5 4666.5 3.076172 16.5 100 933.1 72.70043 -
    53:38.0 4838 3.076172 11.5 7.843137 620.62 76.42866 -

    What do you guys think?
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    So what sort of AFR here?

    10's? 11's? 12's?
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    my wideband 02 sensor just went out the other day so I ordered a new one from PLX I'm just waiting for it to come in. I will have it installed this weekend and do some more scans and see what its doing. I know the nb isnt very accurate to tune on but at the moment thats all i have. It seems like my fuel is all over the place. Here was another scan with the same tune but you can see it was richer. What would cause the fuel to be all over the place?

    Device Time Engine RPM(rpm) Knock Retard(Deg.) Timing Advance(°) Throttle Position(Manifold)(%) H2OS Sensor(mV) Speed (OBD)(mph)
    01:37.1 3125.75 0 16.5 32.54901886 733.460022 16.15565109
    01:37.6 3125.75 0 18.5 49.41176605 954.7999878 21.12662125
    01:38.0 3940 0 19 100 954.7999878 29.82581711
    01:38.5 4537.75 0 19.5 100 954.7999878 36.66090012
    01:39.0 5022.75 0 19.5 100 963.4799805 42.8746109
    01:39.5 5022.75 0 20 100 963.4799805 42.8746109
    01:40.0 5648 0 19 100 980.8400269 49.0883255
    01:40.5 4049 0 19 100 980.8400269 53.43792343
    01:41.1 4177.5 0 19 100 967.8200073 57.78752136
    01:41.5 4300.5 0.3515625 19 100 963.4799805 62.13711929
    01:42.0 4300.5 0.26367188 18.5 100 972.1599731 62.13711929
    01:42.5 4000 0.26367188 34 7.84313726 759.5 65.24397278
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