who is running E85?

**Quicklynx** · 09-02-2008

Originally Posted by kevlws23

zzp tuned my car on e85 at 13.8 i have a 255 rewire 65lb stg2 volt booster

Thank you Kev! Huge help!

**Quicklynx** · 09-02-2008

Originally Posted by kevlws23

zzp tuned my car on e85 at 13.8 i have a 255 rewire 65lb stg2 volt booster

So you are running e85 now? How do you like it? Pros and cons?

**kevlws23** · 09-03-2008

Originally Posted by Quicklynx

So you are running e85 now? How do you like it? Pros and cons?

yes still on e85 it does give more power its cheaper easy to get

the bad 16mpg on a road tripe cant read the plugs worth a ****

ass much as i drive it i should have went with 110

i wouldent recomend e85 fore a dd 16mpg sucks

**Quicklynx** · 09-03-2008

Originally Posted by kevlws23

yes still on e85 it does give more power its cheaper easy to get

the bad 16mpg on a road tripe cant read the plugs worth a ****

ass much as i drive it i should have went with 110

i wouldent recomend e85 fore a dd 16mpg sucks

unless we make our own!

Also I drive 66 Miles highway and 5.5 miles Road on my daily trip to and from work and school. It's the same for because they are literally right next to each other. Kind of a luxury.

**Bio248** · 09-02-2008

im going to be using my stock fuel pump with a re-wire, so it should run around 14V, a little less.

otherwise the injectors im using are 65#, which is ~630cc if im not mistaken..

**kevlws23** · 09-03-2008

Originally Posted by Bio248

im going to be using my stock fuel pump with a re-wire, so it should run around 14V, a little less.

otherwise the injectors im using are 65#, which is ~630cc if im not mistaken..

i did the zzp hotwire kit 3 years ago and just asumed i was geting 15 volts at the pump (i get 15.3 at the alt)anyways i checked it the otherday at the pump and it was at 12 volts so i aded a relay now i get 14.9 at the pump

TDCRacing · 09-03-2008

Originally Posted by kevlws23

i did the zzp hotwire kit 3 years ago and just asumed i was geting 15 volts at the pump (i get 15.3 at the alt)anyways i checked it the otherday at the pump and it was at 12 volts so i aded a relay now i get 14.9 at the pump

Intrested in what and how you did that....care to explain?

**Quicklynx** · 03-12-2009

Can you update how you added the relay for more voltage?

TDCRacing · 03-12-2009

FWIW I bought the racetronics pump and harness. It is far better than the ZZP hot wire will ever be.

**Bio248** · 03-13-2009

im going to be running 65#ers. they are in my closet waiting to get put on when i start tuning this spring. im hoping that ill be able to hit some 12s with e85 and meth on street tires. that is all i want out of this car.

**Mikegotone'02** · 03-13-2009

Originally Posted by Bio248

im going to be running 65#ers. they are in my closet waiting to get put on when i start tuning this spring. im hoping that ill be able to hit some 12s with e85 and meth on street tires. that is all i want out of this car.

You say that now lol, trust me you'll want more. My first name was 12.99someday, then 12.50someday, then 11secsomeday, now it's 10secsomeday lol. And I WILL run 10's this year

**Bio248** · 03-13-2009

nah, i want a different car. im stuck between a g35 sport coupe or a legacy gt. ill have to test drive both to see which one i want more.

**blueguy** · 03-14-2009

Originally Posted by Bio248

nah, i want a different car. im stuck between a g35 sport coupe or a legacy gt. ill have to test drive both to see which one i want more.

Damn I say Legacy...everyone's little rich ***** 19 year old has a G35 or 350Z...throw in a built EJ25 from the STi...pure, noob, POWNAGE

**Quicklynx** · 03-14-2009

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

Damn I say Legacy...everyone's little rich ***** 19 year old has a G35 or 350Z...throw in a built EJ25 from the STi...pure, noob, POWNAGE

Not trying to be a jerk and usually I don't care about Hijacking because people hijack threads that have been discussed 1,000,000 times already, but this is pretty much the only steady thread on e85 that we have over here. I'm not a moderator so I have no control over it, but would be appreciative if it stayed on track. Thanks

**blueguy** · 03-14-2009

Originally Posted by Quicklynx

Not trying to be a jerk and usually I don't care about Hijacking because people hijack threads that have been discussed 1,000,000 times already, but this is pretty much the only steady thread on e85 that we have over here. I'm not a moderator so I have no control over it, but would be appreciative if it stayed on track. Thanks

Please.

It was just a comment. Sorry for ruining your day. Next time I'll remember that your easily irritated from all the sand in your vagina.

Look, you tell that other guy that he is an a**hole, or hit him with "constructive criticism" at that...I make ONE COMMENT and your up my ass about hijacking a thread? Whelp, I'm sorry and won't post in this thread again since it is the only E85 related thread on this board. That way no one gets pissed or rubbed the wrong way about hijacking. I made a comment. Sue me. Like you've never done that in your life.

I don't mean to be an jacka**, I am just saying it as my opinion as some things hit me more than others. I guess some things bother me a bit more. Don't take it harshly if you do, it is just me venting.

**Quicklynx** · 03-14-2009

Well I wasn't trying to be up in your ass and I tried to ask politely. To be honest I wasn't even angry about it and it didn't ruin my day. Its hard to interpret how people talk through e-mails, instant messages, forums, etc.. I assure you I wasn't being aggressive. I didn't use "!" to try and show you that I was calm. I'm a very easy going guy. I asked that you please be aware of this thread because it is a rare one on this site. I even said I'm not a moderator so I can't tell you not to hijack it. I didn't want to drift from my jurisdiction or abuse any power that I don't even have. I just asked you, said I would peronally appreciate it, and then thanked you. I'm sorry if you misinterpreted it, but the way you took it was no way in how I intended it.

Technically I'm hijacking it now while having this off topiic discussion with you.

**Quicklynx** · 03-14-2009

Also, Mike, one more thing. Instead of having to explain everything in an e-mail to anyone who is interested, because ultimately you'd just end up repeating yourself over and over again, could you maybe do a write up that could be stickied and maybe even put into the How To section. Talk about the Pros and Cons of e85 on the W-Body specifically, what kind of gains we can expect, why we should do it and why we shouldn't do it, how to set it up, how to tune it, your personal experiences with it, etc.. This would be way more beneficial to the community and it could potentially put you on the map in the grandprixforums.net community.

I can tell you I would love something like that, especially if the writeup had more than 1 person involved. Maybe work together with others who have done this.

**Mikegotone'02** · 03-14-2009

Here's a couple examples of why i get so pissed trying to decipher this thread and just decide to give you guys my email to answer question by question.

Originally Posted by Sabrewings

If it's that easy, why don't I just change my AFR to 9.0:1 and I'll have more power!

You have to get sufficient air in with that 40% increase in fuel. Which means you need even MORE airflow mods to be at the same point.

Wrong

Originally Posted by Sabrewings

Am I speaking a different language? If the supercharger could provide plenty of airflow, what's the point of headers, rockers/cam, throttle bodies, etc.

Take one supercharged car running on gasoline. Another right next to it is running on E85. To dyno about the same, the E85 car would have to dump ~40% more fuel and pull in ~40% more air to match the gasoline car due to the drastically lower amount of energy contained in E85. If a 40% increase in airflow is easy, excuse me...

There's physics and facts, and then there's what people want to believe. Choose which you want to be in on.

Wrong

Was this thread made so ^^^^ can attempt to talk us out of using E85? Can someone explain to me how the E85 cars can add 40% MORE air when they're on E85 compared to gasoline? Those comments are WRONG, and don't belong in this thread. Biggriggs already kind of took care of straightening that out with his smarts lol.

So Quiklynx you're right i was quick to judge, i just couldn't read on anymore yesterday b/c i saw comments such as these. I say we just start a new thread, have it sticky'd, and EVERYONE contributes. Now that i actually took the time to read the whole thing there was/is good info here. We just need to filter out the useless crap and explain certain things into further detail so nobody gets confused. Biggriggs pretty much took care of the whole stoich thing, but i'm sure there will be more people asking about it. I've had numerous people email me asking why their car was running like crap. They go on to explain they're commanding 9:1 instead of 14.7 like it should be

It's so easy to not explain that right and confuse the h*ll out of everyone lol.

So what do you say guys, new thread?

**Quicklynx** · 03-14-2009

For the record I never called Mike an asshole. I said the way he comes off he is perceived as one.

Anyways... back on topic

Mike, you think you could write up How-To on e85 conversions in W-Bodies?

Thanks man

**Quicklynx** · 03-14-2009

Originally Posted by Quicklynx

For the record I never called Mike an asshole. I said the way he comes off he is perceived as one.

Anyways... back on topic

Mike, you think you could write up How-To on e85 conversions in W-Bodies?

Thanks man

I just realized you already replied Mike, sorry about that. I'm using my phone at work so its harder to search through the forum.

Yes I very much would like a thread worth stickying and when you start it please post the link in here. Thanks

Sorry about the craziness going on, I was only trying to help. I apologize if I offended anyone.