OK, here it is guys! Timboku you were right on! Unfortunately I already had the appointment with the guys machine. I read your idea with the MAF this morning and already had the appointment when I got up. On the way to the shop the car quit completely, I was in traffic and had a heck of getting it out of the traffic. Flustered I forgot your suggestion and called a tow. 55 bucks later it's at the shop. 90 to hook up the super computer, 161 to check it out. 238 smakers for a new MAF sensor. Crap. I should of went out there and drove it like you suggested Timboku. And to top if off now the abs/tcs light is on and the code reads front sensor is bad. It was not on when we took it in. The shop said it was and we argued that for a few seconds and I gave up. Now I am home and wondering if the tow driver might have hurt the leads when he tied it down. I am not familiar with the system so don't know if that can happen. I will fix it though. Thanks for the help everyone![]()