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  1. #1 SD Rear header sealing problem... 
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    Installed the speed daddy headers, used new GM gaskets. Sealed with rtv and torca clamps on all slip joints. Used v-band clamp on down pipe. So i started the car ticked like crazy. The motor was still cold, I put my hand on the rear header closest to the egr valve and i can feel exhaust leaking from there. The egr tube looked like it sealed good. I just hope the rear head to header flange is not warped. I dont know if i should do the egr delete to see if that helps. Has anyone else had any issues with sealing the rear headers with the SDs. Thanks for your help!
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    Yes delete the egr. If you still hear ticking afterwards, its more than likely the cheap flex section on the headers
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    I sanded the flanges with a 6" belt sander to remove most of the clear paint, and straighten them slightly, I also re-used the oem gm header gasket.

    The egr connection I put a good bead of copper rtv in when the egr was slid together, then clamped the egr tube to the header, let the car sit for at least 2-4 hours to keep the rtv from this joint from entering the supercharger. (I put copper rtv on all joints except the main ports to the header)

    I had the flex flipped (v-band is now at the top of the flex/ bottom of the rear header) so it can be repaired without removing the rear header.
    I also had a second o2 bung welded on the drivers side of the rear header as far forward as possible opposite the supplied o2 bung. (was going to try using this for wideband, but it has 3/8" clearance and the stock one has no clearance for the o2 sensor, need to fix this first.)

    Check to make sure all header bolts are tight. I bolted the rear header in tight first, I believe it would have been more troublesome to tighten up if it were all assembled loose, then the bolts all tightened.
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    Unless you're building a race car and need to reduce weight, don't bother to delete the EGR. They're nice and DD's love them. Besides which, the EGR valve is 100% CLOSED at idle. You could unbolt it from the headers and it won't make a difference at idle. EGR only opens at cruise.

    It's also got nothing at all, ever, for any remote reason, to do with your flex if you're feeling the exhaust leak at the manifold.

    Make sure all of your header bolts are actually tight and that your gasket is seated properly (it sounds stupid, but I've seen the gasket on wrong before). Some guys even use lock washers on the bolts for some extra oomf. There should be nothing wrong with a new GM gasket, but Felpro header gaskets are a bit thicker so are more likely to seal nice and seem to be more popular than GM gaskets for that reason.
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    After doing my SD headers, my POS EGR leaked like a b*tch. I proceeded to unbolt it, and throw it as high into the air as I could. Block off plate on te header EGR port, an no more ticking!
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    i dabbed some rtv on it and it sealed.
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    thanks guys. i will give that a try. my friend will be working on it tomorrow. I let him know whats going on. Hopefully this works. Also if the rear header is warped how do straighten a 1/2 inch of steel at the header to head flange?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02grandprix View Post
    how do straighten a 1/2 inch of steel at the header to head flange?
    Hm. Hammer and anvil?
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    How is that possible. with pipes in the way and bracing it down. Well i hope its not warped
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    So my buddy removed the egr and plugged everything up, no more leak. Stupid egr lol. So that was the culprit, thanks guys for the help!!
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    Man, that doesn't make sense to me. Is the egr tube punctured or something?
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    not that we noticed, but as long as the leak is gone. not the best way to fix it i guess.
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    Happened to mine too. The hole at the egr port is slightly oversized which causes a sealing issue. I did the same by installing a block off plate with rtv, no more leak.

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    I just did the same with the egr and the "pppfffffttt" is gone.
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