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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    tell me why you'd want a 180* thermostat. because you want to lose MPG? because you want to put extra wear on the motor? because the car is faster or has less knock with it (it really doesn't, for real)?

    its a useless mod that the old school guys had to do because they had no way of tuning for their mods so they had to do things like run colder thermostats, really cold spark plugs, scale MAF frequencies, and run high octane in order to run fast. its old technology and in the modern car world its' really lost its place.
    I'm gonna play the devils advocate on your post for a second...

    I see your point...but considering the technology in these motors...they are old school compared to other things released that the time...so, a colder temp t-stat, colder plugs, etc. DO HELP...but you must be modded to capitalize on the effects. So, your saying that since I'm modded I'd be better off running a 195* and AL606's?

    See what I'm getting at? I agree 110% though on the fact of putting a t-stat and colder plugs in a car that is stock pullied or close to stock is a waste of time and money.
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    so when do you start actually benefiting from a thermo and plugs? 3.4? 3.2?
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    plugs, yes. thermostat, no.

    plugs will always help with more boost, but running the motor cooler does nothing for ya.
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    so verdict is, plugs yes, thermo no...but my pulley size question...when do you actually start benefiting from them.
    2001 Regal GS, PLOG, 3" DP, 1.9's/L76 springs. 21* of timing on a 3.4"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    plugs, yes. thermostat, no.

    plugs will always help with more boost, but running the motor cooler does nothing for ya.
    Considering the fact I know there are fueling and timing tables that directly relate from temperature, I'll roll with most of what you said. Unless you've got a tuner and ways to make the PCM happy with the temps you're running, it really doesn't do anything for you....might have 5 years or so ago though.

    IMO, drilled T-Stats are only good for one thing, and that's bleeding the coolant system 10X's faster than with a regular one, and even at that, some newer T-Stats have a check ball that opens when there's air in the system, and closes when the air is gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4THGENCAMAROFAN View Post
    so verdict is, plugs yes, thermo no...but my pulley size question...when do you actually start benefiting from them.
    When you have the supports for a pulley/PCM combo, the benefits are as soon as the fuel trims settle down after changing it all around.
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    inch or a mile lol
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    Does it actually do more harm then good with a 180 tstat? I have one sitting here waiting to go in when I change all my gaskets and drop to my 3.4 but if stock one would be better im gonna go return this for teh stock 190
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    in all reality, yes. if youre driving the car all the time through all sorts of weather you should be sticking with the 195*.
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