I've seen quiet a few people who build their intakes from pvc piping. Can that even really handle the heat of it; or would it just melt?
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10-12-2010
I've seen quiet a few people who build their intakes from pvc piping. Can that even really handle the heat of it; or would it just melt?
10-12-2010
I think you need to invest in a pulley puller instead of a intake.
10-12-2010
Yes PVC can really handle the heat, btw how are you you running a 3.1?Originally Posted by Pshnmeawy
10-12-2010
See post above yours LOL
10-12-2010
lol yea never seen anyone run a 3.1 on a stock car i couldn't even run one with all my previous mods with out switching to e85
10-12-2010
I'm running a 3.1" knock free with pretty much a basic tune to just get by right now...MIGHT be able to run a 3.0/2.9...but I doubt it...just saying OP...you need TONS of mods to run a 3.1"
10-12-2010
Very true i was running a 3.0 knock free it took a lot of mods tho and had to switch to e85, or i could had just went with a I/C set-up instead..probably why my motor blew a head gasket
10-12-2010
my pcv piping has been fine for almost 8 months now. Yes, on my intake.
10-12-2010
PVC worked fine for a couple of months, but it's troublesome, if you paint it, it scratches easily and if your joints are not tight it tends to get loose and you have to adjust it every now and then.
I ended up going for an open cone and threw away all my pvc stuff.
10-13-2010
x1000
10-13-2010
Lol I see I'm getting pretty hit for having a 3.1. I'll downgrade to a 3.4. Hahah. I just started to "mod" this car a few months back. GIVE ME A BREEAK! hah. I have a 79 Camaro I've been building for the past 3 years, that I've just recently lost interest in.
10-13-2010
Hence sig.
So far everything I've TRUELLY done to the car -
New Fuel Pump/regulator. New quick struts and link pins front and rear. Drilled/slotted roters. Ceramic pads. E3 plugs(Which I'm not too impressed with). MSD ignition(Wires Coils and Interface). New front motor mounts. Sythetic Trans fluid. Sythetic Oil. K and N air filter in the box(gonna make an intake). Flushed coolant system - replaced with green. 180 Tstat.New Waterpump. And those bs plastic bypass elbows(Was hell getting the pieces that broke inside out). New Idler Pulley. Cat-back stystem replaced without mufflers. All new Speakers(Memphis) and the HIDs.When I purchased the car the pulley was already on the car, and that's what he told me it was, guess I'm actually gonna measure it prior to ordering the new one. It is a quick swap one with the 5 or 6 allen heads though. Pretty much EVERYTHING outside of the tranny and engine internalls is new. Too much money stuck into the car as it is, but for some reason.. I like the GP alot better then my Camaro which has a 383 stroker. The Camaro could take the GP anyday... but still.
10-13-2010
If I were you I'd put the stock 3.8 one on.. You still need a lot of mods to support the 3.4, and it doesn't seem like you have all of them in line.
I'm piecing mine together (3.4 setup) here is what I'm getting to support it:
Headers, Intake, One Degree Colder Plugs, New OEM Wires, Ported s/c, Tune
That's everything that should be needed for a 3.4 setup. If you don't have these, put the stock 3.8 on. Not hating on you, it's for your motors sake.
10-13-2010
Your stock.
Put a 3.8" back on. Supporting mods means: HEADERS, TUNED PCM, COLDER SPARK PLUGS, COLDER THERMOSTAT, INTAKE OF SOME KIND, PORTED SUPERCHARGER CASE (for better heat dissipation), etc. Why don't you just read my thread guy? Because its obvious you haven't if you think those are mods....and since when do struts and aftermarket speakers mean its ok to run a smaller pulley? You need a 3.8", not a 3.4"...OR a 3.1". I'm saving your motor, jeeves. But...don't take it from me...because mine had knock and toasted on a 3.4"...what do you think your in for with your 3.1"...in fact...you should run it to 126 MPH...and watch the fireworks when it hits fuel cutoff.
10-13-2010
Hah. Not neccessarly calling them "mods." Just making a statement that it's a "work in progress." I've never done much with a newer style car. Only cars I've ever built were old cars. I'm not dissagreeing with you one bit that the 3.1 or the 3.4 will ruin the motor, or the trans for that matter.. Hell.. Since the beggining of this year, I've only put 3.5k miles on it. It's rarely driven, since OBVIOUSLY I'm not complete with what I want done to it. I understand that you need to upgrade others to support. Give me a break. JEEEZ!!! Hell, I even bought it that way, not really thinking much about it. And I'm actually in the works with a guy to get a SC ported. I'm in the process in either A. building an intake or B. purchasing one(I'm just concerned about the placement of the PCM, and unsure of what to do with it without making it look hacked). Headers I plan on, but currently I have other ideas in mind. I personally wanna yank the motor sometime over the winter or next year sometime and put a cam with higher grade internals. But regardless, I see your concern and I appreciate it. It does appear to be a 3.4 pulley, and not a 3.1 btw.
10-13-2010
So what are these colder plugs???
10-13-2010
Copied from Blue's thread.. that you should read.. But there is no point in getting these plugs without a tune. There is no point in getting spark plugs, or a smaller pulley without a tune.. hell, some people even say don't put a ported s/c on without a tune.. Again, I ask you to read this thread:NGKTR55/AL104's for your 3.4" Setup
http://www.grandprixforums.net/safel...car-17482.html
And here is my thread on how to make an intake.. please don't ask me how to take the air box apart..
http://www.grandprixforums.net/simpl...res-33351.html
10-13-2010
o boy this isnt gonna be another identical thread that that kid had is it. He was runnin a 3.2 pulley with 0 mods and wouldnt listen to anyone on here to put the stock back on.
The cai is very easy to do. You can get all the stuff you need from like home depot or somethin and the pvc holds up very well i have had mine on for almost a year now and its like junam said just make sure its tight cause i had to keep tightning mine up about every other day. i even went as far as makin my own heat sheild out of poly carbonate. benifits of workin in a plastic shop lol
10-13-2010
read more.
internal changes are good for ONE thing: changing compression.
Unless you blew it up already.
10-13-2010
Thanks for the input guys. What about one of them bs intakes on Ebay? Lol. They're dirt cheap.
I'm not trying to build this amazing racing car, just trying to build a car I can have fun in.
Older cars with 350's n 454's and such are for racing.
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