Thread: mod suggestion while motor is out.....

Results 1 to 17 of 17
  1. #1 mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    Donating Users nvsridez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    sw WI
    Posts
    78
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    ok, here is the scenerio; my buddy is dropin an l67 in an early 90's lumina z34. everything is planned, ready to go back in and fit properly, wiring has been addressed and completed. the motor is still out of the car and he wants to throw about $1000 into it, and get the most power/performance for the money. We are not scared of cams or i/c either I got a good idea of what i would do with the $1000, but would like to take other ppls ideas into consideration and relay this thread to him.

    Please help me out here and list below what you would install, while on an engine stand, and the expected gains. Also; do you have a similar setup that you can vouche for saying-this is what i did and im impressed with it?


    Thanks in advance guys, i appreciated all your help!!!!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    DUI BABY Bio248's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    MILWAUKEE
    Posts
    31,340
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    $1000? do you want it to sound cool and go fast or do you want it to just go fast?

    cam will be sweet and youll get a bunch of power out of it, but an intercooler will make more power than the cam alone.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #3 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    Donating Users nvsridez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    sw WI
    Posts
    78
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    ^uhm....im sure he would rather it go fast than sound cool. the blower whine alone from the engine bay of a lumina is "cool sounding" enough to him im sure.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #4 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    TDCRacing
    Guest
    Intense cam.
    And all the rest of the stuff to go with it.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #5 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    DUI BABY Bio248's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    MILWAUKEE
    Posts
    31,340
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    get an intercooler and run ~3.2 pulley on it from the get go. with headers and rockers you could easily run a 3.0 with decent timing. the intercooler is the best mod you can ever buy.

    if it were me though, i would put a cam in it as you dont have to pull a bunch of crap to install an intercooler later. with a cam you have to disassemble a lot of stuff to do that with the motor in the car.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #6 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    The Blue One blueguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Dirtyzville, Missery
    Posts
    31,287
    Thanks (Received)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    2
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    I'd say S1X cam, 3800 Meth Kit...so that is what...$600? Then drop the rest of it on cheap headers and a 3.1"
    Sold WBody's: '03 Blue GTP/'98 Green GTP/'98 Silver GT/'05 GXP
    '99 Chevrolet Silverado Classic Z71 4x4 - K&N Intake/Gibson Exhaust #TRUCKTHINGS
    '12 Buick Regal Turbo - ZZP CAI/20% Tint/HID's
    '89 Ford Mustang LX Notchback - LM7 5.3, 4L80, 9", HX40
    '04 Chevrolet Corvette MRM A4/LS1 - TSP LT's, 3"O/R X, AFE S2 CAI
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #7 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    SE Level Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Dubuque, IA
    Posts
    19
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    get an intercooler and run ~3.2 pulley on it from the get go. with headers and rockers you could easily run a 3.0 with decent timing. the intercooler is the best mod you can ever buy.

    if it were me though, i would put a cam in it as you dont have to pull a bunch of crap to install an intercooler later. with a cam you have to disassemble a lot of stuff to do that with the motor in the car.
    i vote for cam, headers. GEN V. this combo for me netted low 12s with no ic, I don't see many(any?) No cam cars running 12.3s so IMO, cam only makes more power than IC only.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #8 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    youtu.be/xhrBDcQq2DM FoSHO99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Maquoketa, Iowa
    Posts
    2,943
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Cam and ported blower. SSAC headers if they'll fit. Also I don't know if you'll have hood clearance for a IC?

    LS6 springs, S1X and new stock timing chain... the corey combo.
    2001 GTP PT61 Turbo, E85, Stock Motor
    2011 Chevy Cruze MT6 1.4L Turbo
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #9 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    SE Level Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Dubuque, IA
    Posts
    19
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post
    Cam and ported blower. SSAC headers if they'll fit. Also I don't know if you'll have hood clearance for a IC?

    LS6 springs, S1X and new stock timing chain... the corey combo.
    i'd hold judgment on the stock timing chain until we tear the motor from the silver car apart.

    I'd also like to see someone local go with an XP cam just to get some diversity, by all means it should work similar to my s1x as far as power gains.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #10 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    TDCRacing
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Gooch View Post
    i'd hold judgment on the stock timing chain until we tear the motor from the silver car apart.

    I'd also like to see someone local go with an XP cam just to get some diversity, by all means it should work similar to my s1x as far as power gains.
    What cam were you running.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  11. #11 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    youtu.be/xhrBDcQq2DM FoSHO99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Maquoketa, Iowa
    Posts
    2,943
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by TDCRacing View Post
    What cam were you running.
    Gooch = Corey
    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post

    LS6 springs, S1X and new stock timing chain... the corey combo.

    The xp cam has a bit more noticable lope at idle too.

    Screw em both and get the NIC cam... LOL
    2001 GTP PT61 Turbo, E85, Stock Motor
    2011 Chevy Cruze MT6 1.4L Turbo
    Reply With Quote  
     

  12. #12 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    GT Level Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    462
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    X2, get the NIC cam and run a 3.0" pulley with a sweet tune. That would be a bad ass idle and when you stand on it you'll get noticed.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  13. #13 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    i pay to play badbrad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    hueytown, alabama
    Posts
    1,053
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    send me the $1000 and i'll send u the ultimate sticker kit, best bang for the buck!lol
    Reply With Quote  
     

  14. #14 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    SE Level Member Sinister Drag Designs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    129
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    s1x cam
    105 springs
    cc retainers
    stock chain and damp
    viton valve seals
    gaskets for swap
    pacesetter headers/reworked ebay knockoffs
    HAI
    MPS with 3.2
    smaller belt
    NGK tr6 plugs
    180 t-stat
    TUNE

    Great street manners, should still be able to use stock injectors.
    That should blow about the whole budget if you can get some stuff used.

    Or ditch the cam and 105 springs, get used 1.9 modified rockers, a used nitrous kit, and run a 3.4 pulley. This might be a little easier on the trans if you are only using the nitrous kit at the track and not spraying through the shifts.
    Both setups have been proven power makers for years. Whats your goal for the car powerwise?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  15. #15 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    The Blue One blueguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Dirtyzville, Missery
    Posts
    31,287
    Thanks (Received)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    2
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Meeeh...a 3.2" might be pushing it IMO...I still had a few *'s of KR with a 3.25" when I did my XP Cam.
    Sold WBody's: '03 Blue GTP/'98 Green GTP/'98 Silver GT/'05 GXP
    '99 Chevrolet Silverado Classic Z71 4x4 - K&N Intake/Gibson Exhaust #TRUCKTHINGS
    '12 Buick Regal Turbo - ZZP CAI/20% Tint/HID's
    '89 Ford Mustang LX Notchback - LM7 5.3, 4L80, 9", HX40
    '04 Chevrolet Corvette MRM A4/LS1 - TSP LT's, 3"O/R X, AFE S2 CAI
    Reply With Quote  
     

  16. #16 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    GTX Level Member DanGTP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Bentonville (WalMart-ville), AR
    Posts
    1,753
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    Meeeh...a 3.2" might be pushing it IMO...I still had a few *'s of KR with a 3.25" when I did my XP Cam.
    I think it varies slightly from motor to motor. I had a 3.1 with my old XP setup and was running ~16* of timing knock free. Don't go that small unless you intend on getting bigger injectors, though. I learned that the hard way...

    But, I def say go with a nice cam/included mods, some headers, and a good custom tune.
    ~
    '97 GTP: 9.5:1 Diamonds, P&P Everything, XP, SSIC, GenV, Shiny Headers, 3.29's, HPTuners, E85
    Reply With Quote  
     

  17. #17 Re: mod suggestion while motor is out..... 
    DUI BABY Bio248's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    MILWAUKEE
    Posts
    31,340
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    then youre running too much timing.

    depends how you want your car to act. do you want it to be slightly slow when not in boost or do you want it to drive like the car is on 'roids? then you pick timing or boost? i will be doing more towards the boost area. i want to run about 18* on the top end at most and just run more boost. i like being old school like that.
    Reply With Quote  
     

Similar Threads

  1. Suggestion
    By Dohner in forum Forum Bugs/Suggestions
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 02-08-2009, 04:19 PM
  2. Randomness .... Suggestion
    By Billyboi6 in forum Off Topic Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-24-2008, 05:48 PM
  3. Muffler suggestion/ experience
    By DanGTP in forum 3.8L V6 Supercharged (L67)(L32)
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 02-15-2008, 05:02 PM
  4. Transmission Area Suggestion
    By 19SE92 in forum Forum Bugs/Suggestions
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 02-12-2008, 09:41 PM
  5. Another Forum Suggestion
    By TyroElite in forum Forum Bugs/Suggestions
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-29-2007, 03:00 PM
Tags for this Thread

View Tag Cloud

Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •