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    Mike at the W-body store told me via email the follow regarding S&S Headers

    Hi David. They will fit however there are better options for less money. You should take a look at the Pacesetter headers we offer which include a full bolt-in downpipe and are less money.

    I ask him "I was trying to stay away from the they are 3 piece, slip fit (i.e Pacesetters, SSAC) the S & S are two piece, and use a donut gasket. The S & S headers include the weld-in downpipe w/ flex joint!

    S & S are far better quality, do you disagree with this? "


    I wouldn't say they are far better quality but they are better quality. As long as a header fits and it doesn't leak it's fine. The Pacesetters don't have leaking problems if basic care is taken when installing them. We don't carry the S&S anymore because you can now get a smaller primary Pacesetter. The demand just wasn't there unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massivesystem View Post
    I wouldn't say they are far better quality but they are better quality. As long as a header fits and it doesn't leak it's fine. The Pacesetters don't have leaking problems if basic care is taken when installing them. We don't carry the S&S anymore because you can now get a smaller primary Pacesetter. The demand just wasn't there unfortunately.
    Lol it sounds like he's just trying to get you to buy pacesetters from his store, S&S header's being not that much better quality my ass. Any header that you have to weld to get it to seal, I would not call quality lol.

    But anyway to be honest SSAC headers aren't all that bad, they are stainless steel SLP knockoffs at a damn good price. My only suggestion with these headers would be to replace to replace the flex section that comes with them with a ZZP interlock flex section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokin2000gtp View Post
    Lol it sounds like he's just trying to get you to buy pace****ters from his store, not that much better quality my ass. Honestly SSAC headers aren't all that bad, they are stainless steel SLP knockoffs at a damn good price.
    Yes it seems so..

    So I am between S&S or SSAC. S&S would cost 500+ I believe and SSAC 300

    Is there any real big differnce besides price?

    WHat do you think
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