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  1. #1 Engine gauge reading to learn basic parameters 
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    So i am completely new to engine tuning and i am trying to learn the basics. I have a Bluetooth OBDII reader and the torque app. I have been collecting data to help understand what the readings are and what they mean.
    Today i collected data during normal driving and a few WOT runs.

    I would like to understand what my readings mean.
    Knock retard high value was 3.7
    Timing lowest reading 8.0 highest 36.5
    AFR 14.7:1 to 10.9:1
    boost maxed out at 8 psi.

    Car has intake,exhaust,u bent delete, stock pulley, stock plugs, unsure of t stat but run around 185 to 190.

    If there are posts that explain some of this please share i have been reading tons of thread on this forum and gotten lot of information.
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    not a whole lot really, as your car is stock.

    high spark is cruising around, lower is wot and when that kr kicked in. boost means jack really. but its a normal number for a stock set up.

    a/f looks ok, but t app dont give a real reading for that.

    and you cant tune with a t app. it just scans live data.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    I know the Torque app cant tune, but before i spend a bunch of money on a HP i was hoping to learn some stuff about what all the readings means.
    The modding your 3800 safely thread said to not drop pulleys until you have 0 KR. I plan to install my SD headers and check again for KR. Seems like i have done the steps to allow a 3.4 pulley minus colder plugs and t stat.
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    best to start reading tuner manuals and such.

    i think theres 2 maybe 3 DHP's for sale right now too. two are being sold with a laptop all set up ready to go.

    headers and a 3.4 are rather standard. 104 plugs too.

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    The thermostat should be removed from that stupid mod list, it's a completely pointless mod to do.

    Someone tell me how the engine can be any better off when it runs 5-10ยบ cooler on a properly working cooling system.


    There is always the option to run a 3.6 or even a 3.5 pulley, both increase boost just not as much as a 3.4.

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    ignition timing advance is how many pulses are being fired inside the combustion chamber. more timing advance means more cylinder pressure. at low load cruising, having more advance is ok, but at high load there is more stress on everything, so you want a good balance of timing in relation to the amount of kr. in stock form, every grand prix has kr, but when you start modding you want to get rid of it, so an easy way is to cut timing advance. I've heard some people say anything less than 10* at wot is bad, and others say a minimum of 15* is recommended.

    the epa recommended air fuel ratio is 14.7 units of air to 1 unit of fuel because for gasoline engines that is the most efficient ratio. when you start modding and you want more power, a ratio of 11.5 is what I've heard is best for supercharged or turbocharged vehicles.

    by definition, boost is the presence of restriction inside an engine. for this reason, too much boost is bad, so just because you have more boost than someone else doesn't mean your car will be faster. more boost increases the amount of pressure inside the combustion chamber, so you can run a smaller pulley and more boost, or a bigger pulley and increase your timing advance. more timing is better because it is always there, while your car is not always making boost. another problem with boost is the by-product of heat. some heat is necessary for combustion, but too much will rob power. the eaton m90 makes a lot of heat, so an intercooler is very effective at making more power. I think I heard for every 10* colder the air is, 1 more horsepower is made. that ratio may not be accurate, but the principle is true. also, more airflow lowers boost, but makes more power because you can drop pulley sizes to increase the boost back up, or add timing advance. another thing to consider is ethanol, methanol or higher octane fuel. ethanol has less energy than gasoline, but has much higher knock resistance, so you can run E85 and a small supercharger pulley. methanol is similar to ethanol, but you can't run your engine on straight methanol, so most people will inject it either straight or in a mixture with water. the methanol raises the octane rating of the fuel being consumed in the combustion chamber, and if mixed with water, the water will evaporate when it gets to the combustion chamber and cool the inside of the chamber. higher octane fuel, like race gas is very simple because you just add it to your gas tank and if you have any knock, to a certain degree, it will go away because the anti knock index of race gas is higher. I have very little kr with the 3.2" pulley I run with 15* of timing advance, and the next time I go to the track I will install a 3.0" pulley, add some race gas, and then give myself some timing advance.
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    If you search.. I posted on what normal values are
    I drink..so consider that when reading my posts.

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    Bill can u suggest search words. i tried and yours never came up.
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