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  1. #1 Ditching the plogs for speed daddys. 
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    So I decided to do headers like I should have done in the first place.

    Should I be able to run a 3.4 with some tuning?

    I bought an AEM WB too. Would it be a good idea to weld the bung in before the install? If so where?

    What HP /ET's do 3.4" set ups usually run?

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    you should be able to run a 3.4 or 3.6 with tuning as is.

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    Usually around 220whp. Low 14's, maybe upper 13's, depending on DA.

    I would be surprised if you could get away with a 3.4 without any knock issues.


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    If the WB uses the same threads as a normal O2, SD's already have O2 bungs welded in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanGrn99GTP View Post
    I bought an AEM WB too. Would it be a good idea to weld the bung in before the install? If so where?
    I put my WB sensor in the post cat O2 bung that was already in the pipe. Worked out great.
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    What size primarys are the SDs?

    99 GTP 4dr CAI, ported TB, front and rear plog, 3"OR DP, 2.5" SLP catback, EGR del.
    97 Z28 (Sold) 295rwhp 323rwtq 13.5@ 105mph
    01 HD Dyna (Sold) 99rwhp 109rwtq 12.2@ 107mph with apes and no windshield
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    I welded mine to the side of the goose neck piece. Dragged it through the snow for 2 winters, worked like a champ lol.

    I'd suggest pointing it further up or going somewhere else if you plan to run a cat. It must go before the converter. I only went there because I could and I wanted it closer to the exhaust gases exiting the heads, they say like 15-20in away for something like that is generally best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanGrn99GTP View Post
    What size primarys are the SDs?

    Big enough, not a concern as they bigger than factory.

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    I think the primaries are like 1.5"
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    When are u doing the header install? I will come down and help and we should header wrap them

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambler87 View Post
    When are u doing the header install? I will come down and help and we should NOT header wrap them

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    fixed that for ya ^^

    never do the wrap, they just rot out.

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    Mine havent, my buddie's haven't and they have been on sd headers for over three years.

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    your killing them from the inside out. its been proven to be a bad idea.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    your killing them from the inside out. its been proven to be a bad idea.
    Ever seen a set of SD's rust out from wrapping them?
    03 GS - SSAC, AEM wb, PT,SR rockers, Gen 3, 3.4, dynotech trans w/ 3.29's.

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    I've always wrapped mine then coated them like u are supposed to, I just re coat every year. I've never personally seen a set rust out

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    18" from the exhaust port or 36" when using leaded gas , turbo or whenever you anticipate temps higher then 800*

    If you do weld a bung , make it at a 10* angle so it's not pointed straight down into the exhaust pipe
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