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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveGM View Post
    I honestly don't know how to reply to that.... besides saying you're high if you think you'd beat another car that had 10k in parts alone on it...
    Whew, good thing I never said I'd beat it...

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    You did say you would "barely lose". which a supercharged gp with only $1000 in mods would destroy a nicely modded n/a

    I am n/a myself with a bunch of mods. But I know the "wall" comes quickly staying n/a.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bachert24 View Post
    Whew, good thing I never said I'd beat it...

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    Sorry, I don't know how you'd barely lose to a car with 10k in it. Better?
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    I should clarify before I look too dumb...when I say barely lose I'm talking you put 20k into your gtp and I put 10k into my camaro and I lose a 1/4 mile race by half a second. No N/A car will every match a forced induction car dollar for dollar if you consider the cost of the car as well. That's just not possible. Sorry about the confusion there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimsin View Post
    You did say you would "barely lose". which a supercharged gp with only $1000 in mods would destroy a nicely modded n/a

    I am n/a myself with a bunch of mods. But I know the "wall" comes quickly staying n/a.
    Especially when dealing with small cubes. We could all go with strokers, but with the added cost I might as well have just bought a V8 lol.

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    even stroking these motors have shown little gains.

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    What has this turned into.
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    I have $2000 in parts in my comp g. Put $1000 in your camaro. I'll bet I'm at least 2 seconds faster in the quarter
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    someone here modded a n/a block and it dyno'ed at like 260.

    im willing to bet a stock l67 would still beat it, cause the tranny.

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    OP: you could pickup a cheap set of L67 heads, keep your intake and whatever you have already, get the L67 heads ported, then install them and install a direct inject nitrous system. tune it for 150 shot and beat probably 90% of all grand prix's. you can get the heads at the junkyard for 100 bucks and then spend about 1000 for some aggressive port work, and then another 1000 for the nitrous, and you will have about 400 hp for less than the cost of a turbo setup.
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    You should put an S1x in it. I know where you can get one cheep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    I have $2000 in parts in my comp g. Put $1000 in your camaro. I'll bet I'm at least 2 seconds faster in the quarter
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    I have $2000 in parts in my comp g. Put $1000 in your camaro. I'll bet I'm at least 2 seconds faster in the quarter
    To be fair it would have to be dollar for dollar, that being said $2000 in parts I'll assume gives you roughly 100hp. So that puts you at 360hp in a 3600-3800 lb car. Puts you at a 12.5 1/4 at best. How far off am I? So with $2000 into my car I could throw $1500 into some N/A mods and pick up easily 75hp, throw a $500 zex dry shot at it with 75hp jets with my lighter car, with red and better aerodynamics and im at a 13 1/4 at worst. A lot depends on mods. There's no doubt you would beat me, but by 2 seconds? No way. Be real. I wish they made a S/C camaro, that would be awesome!

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    thats all ricer math, stop it now.

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    I'll be around 350whp which is about 450 hp plus whatever shot I run probably a 75 shot. Easily 11 seconds while your struggling to break 13's
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    That is not ricer math. I have been driving muscle cars my whole life. I know a lot more than you think. There is no way you're 350 and there's no way you're breaking into the 11s. You're a dreamer man. I'll just walk away from this convo right now, GP owners always seem to hate on fbody owners and I'm not doing it.

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    I don't think anyone said anything about hating fbody owners. Dont know where you got that lol.
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    for all you know 2,000 in parts is a turbo, and then see yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

    you cant say this much money = this much HP. thats ricer math all day long.

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    I'm not talking ricer math. I put down 315/400 on a bad bottom end with a ton of blow by and mismatched heads. I'm sure I'll hit 350whp off the bottle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    for all you know 2,000 in parts is a turbo, and then see yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

    you cant say this much money = this much HP. thats ricer math all day long.
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