Zoomer is a big man, also has a big ego, more than likely this list was taylored to his likings, therefore ZZP doesn't exist on there. You do see the evidence with the link to original thread at least. But i have dhp 1.0 pcm, zzp 1.0 pcm, intense 1.0 pcm files and would have to say the zzp 1.0's are fairly good. They have access to a few more tables than other tuning programs and as long as you keep the mods the pcm was calibrated for, it should not go kaboom. The problem is when people mod their engines and keep the same mail order pcm, they add mods that affect the airflow that can throw the air fuel ratio off then they might be running that extra timing the pcm was designed for and the car chips a piston...