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That is input only. Third is seperate. Take the piece you have sitting to the right in that picture. Tip it up and down. Hear a thunk, thunk thunk.. that's space between the retaining ring and the bottom. aka... clutches that are shot. Looked like the set that goes in first is the third. If they are good..you won't have 1/2" of play. You'd have maybe .015"-030" space
http://www.automaticchoice.com/uploa...ogue/4t65e.pdf
Do you know where I can buy the third clutches?
i want to buy all the frictions and steels. For 4th, 3rd, and input
Call/Email Dave a TripleEdgePerformance.com tell him I sent you. Dave is a great guy who is happy to talk through things, offer advice and explain what is going on. When you order the clutches etc.. you want some extra or thicker steels etc to take up the extra gap. GM doesn't give us a spec and the normal stack up leaves a lot of space in the clutch baskets. Which.... honestly sucks because then you have slower engagement times (like with worn clutches).
This is in the input pack. Second one from the 3rd clutch pack
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...psi3ju3tsj.jpg
3rd frictions
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...psugnyarmj.jpg
The frictions look familar...right up until you broke a steel. That isn't wavy is it?
Yeah. The frictions are all tore up. I found a couple chunks in the housing. Would that make me lose 3rd?
and yeah it is a wave plate. But I'm confused. It was in the input pack but it doesn't look like the input wave plate on triple edge
Well.. get on getting another because you will need it. The clutches being so far gone could cause you to have no third.
Wow! Someone is pretty fricken ambitious. You have made it this far and honestly I'm amazed. From what you've shown already I believe you could probably rebuild this yourself and make it work correctly. The only issue is if you make one small mistake you can destroy a lot of your brand new parts on your first test drive. That said, what you should do is buy a full overhaul kit with all frictions and steels, and a atsg guide if you don't already have one. Go through the trans from one end to the other step by step replace all the soft parts, CLEAN all the components spotless and use the best looking parts from both transmissions you have. When your done, if you do everything correctly you should have a trans that works perfect the rest of the time you own the car. If you need it back on the road ASAP you should buy a used trans and bolt it in. Then maybe build the other as a spare as time and money allow.
This thread is kind of ironic because I'm doing the exact same stuff to my transmission PM'ing Bill left and right for help, lol. When you put it back together remember to add an extra steel to the 2nd clutch stack or use thicker steels. This is the first transmission I've torn this far into and I must say, it's easy. Here's all my crap:
http://s14.photobucket.com/user/boob...?sort=3&page=1
sorry if I thread jacked.
The 4th apply plate goes on last right?
Please help! Do I put the apply plate on first or last? I Completely forgot.