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    If you swapped your diff in, you're going to end up with 3.29 gearing, which is quite a bit different than the 2.93 the computer is expecting. The computer needs to be rewritten for the new gearing. Whether this is causing the specific shifting issue, I can't say for sure, but it will screw with your shifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scimmia View Post
    If you swapped your diff in, you're going to end up with 3.29 gearing, which is quite a bit different than the 2.93 the computer is expecting. The computer needs to be rewritten for the new gearing. Whether this is causing the specific shifting issue, I can't say for sure, but it will screw with your shifting.
    oh really? how sure are u about the ratio change? cuz thats what i think the problem is too. i want to order a pcm and have them tune it to that ratio but i dont wanna spend the money for that and it end up not bein the right ratio. i think thats most likely the problem though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by projectGTP View Post
    oh really? how sure are u about the ratio change?
    Very sure. If you stick an HD diff on a non-HD trans you get 3.29 gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrewings View Post
    Very sure. If you stick an HD diff on a non-HD trans you get 3.29 gears.
    alright cool. at least i figured out the problem now. 3.29 gears are actually better anyway. lol. i hate the stock gearing in these cars. oh and do i have to get my PCM tuned to my stahl? i have a 3800 from zzp but it says it acts as a 3300. but i can stahl it up to about 4k rpm. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by projectGTP View Post
    alright cool. at least i figured out the problem now. 3.29 gears are actually better anyway. lol. i hate the stock gearing in these cars. oh and do i have to get my PCM tuned to my stahl? i have a 3800 from zzp but it says it acts as a 3300. but i can stahl it up to about 4k rpm. lol
    You shouldn't have to tune it for the higher stall speed. Might want to tweak the lockup clutch apply settings. You still have to get it tuned anyway for the 3.29 gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrewings View Post
    You shouldn't have to tune it for the higher stall speed. Might want to tweak the lockup clutch apply settings. You still have to get it tuned anyway for the 3.29 gears.
    yeah i know that. so do u think my car doesnt wanna shift correctly since the ratio is off? cuz thats what i am thinkin. idk what else it could be. and whats the lockup clutch apply settings? ive never heard of adjusting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by projectGTP View Post
    oh really? how sure are u about the ratio change? cuz thats what i think the problem is too. i want to order a pcm and have them tune it to that ratio but i dont wanna spend the money for that and it end up not bein the right ratio. i think thats most likely the problem though.
    AFAIK, there was not a single non-HD trans that came with the 2.93 overall ratio, so I can virtually guarantee that your gear ratio has changed. The VAST majority of the non-HD transmissions came with 35/35 ratio gears on the input side, so the overall gearing was determined by the differential. The HD differential was only made in the 3.29 ratio, so an HD diff in just about any non-HD trans will give you 3.29 overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scimmia View Post
    AFAIK, there was not a single non-HD trans that came with the 2.93 overall ratio, so I can virtually guarantee that your gear ratio has changed. The VAST majority of the non-HD transmissions came with 35/35 ratio gears on the input side, so the overall gearing was determined by the differential. The HD differential was only made in the 3.29 ratio, so an HD diff in just about any non-HD trans will give you 3.29 overall.
    whats AFAIK mean? lol. and yeah i think this is the problem. cuz trannyman said i have a 2.86 gear ratio originally in that trans so then wit my HD diff it changed it to whatever and that messed it all up. so i put the non HD diff back in and the shift times are better but still way off. it actually does shift now but im almost 100% sure that i need to get my PCM tuned to the gear ratio with my HD diff.
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