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    If you dont want engine braking... you could just peg the shift pressure to max and operate the shift solenoids manually. Pabst blue racing did that in the last lemons race I went to with their 4t80 maxima swap.
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    In manual mode there is significant engine braking in 3rd gear which is where I need it most as the trans doesn't shift to 4th.
    The carbon/ceramic brake pads take over so far no stress at all on the brake pads.

    One thing I forgot to ask Dave is which axles do I need. I hear one axle needs to be from the Aurora and the other from the Eldorado ?
    2015 Custom Twin Engine Nascar style car with dual GTP 3.8 drivetrain, Front trans 4T65e-HD, Rear 4t80e trans 1/4 mile 8.38 @ 165mph
    2000 GP Twin Engine Twin TD Turbo kits. Stock engines stock trans(s) stock injectors stock MAFs 0-60mph 1.8 seconds 1/4 mile 9.72 @ 139 mph
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    We located a 4t80E and a local U pull it yard which means cheap but not garanteed to be good.
    It is a Caddilac Deville with the 4.6L Northstar.
    I think 75$ for the trans. Car has between 110K and whatever. It has a sticker on the door written by hand 110K miles. in 2012
    Drivers seat is in decent shape but looks 130K-150K in terms of wear, that's how I usually tell how much mileage a car really has lol.

    What's good about this is I get the axles and everything else I need for the trans.
    Not sure if those axles will work directly or not I hope so.
    2015 Custom Twin Engine Nascar style car with dual GTP 3.8 drivetrain, Front trans 4T65e-HD, Rear 4t80e trans 1/4 mile 8.38 @ 165mph
    2000 GP Twin Engine Twin TD Turbo kits. Stock engines stock trans(s) stock injectors stock MAFs 0-60mph 1.8 seconds 1/4 mile 9.72 @ 139 mph
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinV6GTP View Post
    In manual mode there is significant engine braking in 3rd gear which is where I need it most as the trans doesn't shift to 4th.
    The carbon/ceramic brake pads take over so far no stress at all on the brake pads.

    One thing I forgot to ask Dave is which axles do I need. I hear one axle needs to be from the Aurora and the other from the Eldorado ?
    I suppose if you left it in 3rd it will enable overrun in 3rd, which gives you engine breaking down to 50mph or so. Otherwise just throw the shift switches and call it a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorizon View Post
    I suppose if you left it in 3rd it will enable overrun in 3rd, which gives you engine breaking down to 50mph or so. Otherwise just throw the shift switches and call it a day.
    Remember I have TWO engines. I was worried about braking but that was when I didn't have the trans in auto mode.
    I have the power of two engines slowing me down

    I have surprising braking power, I was shocked. I took the 1st exit at my track vs the 2nd exit for most cars in the MPH range I am in. And that was without effort. I think my braking power can handle 150mph no problem, then I'll have to think Parachute.
    2015 Custom Twin Engine Nascar style car with dual GTP 3.8 drivetrain, Front trans 4T65e-HD, Rear 4t80e trans 1/4 mile 8.38 @ 165mph
    2000 GP Twin Engine Twin TD Turbo kits. Stock engines stock trans(s) stock injectors stock MAFs 0-60mph 1.8 seconds 1/4 mile 9.72 @ 139 mph
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    So I picked up that 4t80e.

    I got most of the info I needed last night.
    Found the diagrams for the pinouts and lots of info on the swap coming from Pontiac Jeff and also Dave at TEP.

    Now I'm missing the grounding pattern on the shift solenoid for each gear as I have to built my own gear switching device. I'm not fond of paying 1000$ for a trans controller.
    2015 Custom Twin Engine Nascar style car with dual GTP 3.8 drivetrain, Front trans 4T65e-HD, Rear 4t80e trans 1/4 mile 8.38 @ 165mph
    2000 GP Twin Engine Twin TD Turbo kits. Stock engines stock trans(s) stock injectors stock MAFs 0-60mph 1.8 seconds 1/4 mile 9.72 @ 139 mph
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinV6GTP View Post
    So I picked up that 4t80e.

    I got most of the info I needed last night.
    Found the diagrams for the pinouts and lots of info on the swap coming from Pontiac Jeff and also Dave at TEP.

    Now I'm missing the grounding pattern on the shift solenoid for each gear as I have to built my own gear switching device. I'm not fond of paying 1000$ for a trans controller.
    Only advantage to the shift controller is running the pressure control solenoid really... Max that b!tch out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorizon View Post
    Only advantage to the shift controller is running the pressure control solenoid really... Max that b!tch out.
    I was planning on that. Run it disconnect and max pressure.

    There is a shift kit for this trans. It seems to have notoriously lazy 2-3 shift and even a soft 1-2 shift. The kit addresses this but it's more involved and better done when doing an overhaul as far as I know.
    2015 Custom Twin Engine Nascar style car with dual GTP 3.8 drivetrain, Front trans 4T65e-HD, Rear 4t80e trans 1/4 mile 8.38 @ 165mph
    2000 GP Twin Engine Twin TD Turbo kits. Stock engines stock trans(s) stock injectors stock MAFs 0-60mph 1.8 seconds 1/4 mile 9.72 @ 139 mph
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