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    Let me preface this by letting you all know I don't know anything about bodywork or paint at all.

    So my car is developing the normal clearcoat peel on the top of the rear bumper. Here's a pic.




    Was wondering what the best way to handle this is? Is it as simple as sanding it down and respraying it with some clearcoat? Any helps appreciated, most annoying part of my car to me.
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    both my bumpers looked like that. it needs to be sanded cleaned, painted and cleared.

    click the link in my sig at the bottom theres pics and talk.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    For a permanent fix, painting the whole bumper is required. That means repairing the bad spot and clearing the whole thing. Your troubles are deeper than just clearcoat. For a temporary and less shiny fix at home you could sand, prime, color and clear the just the bad area with it on the car using aerosols. Another option is if you remove the bumper and take it to a bodyshop for fix n paint.
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    my rear bumper is like this, just not as bad. i'm sanding the whole thing back, and repainting it. as well as my front bumper. Fenders, hood, Trunk lid, and spoiler
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    quick cheap fix would be wet sand with 1500-2000 grit, then take a buffer and use a compound like meguires ultimate, or similiar and buff until mirror shine.
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    when you see that white crust on the paint, theres no paint left. its plastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ITHURTZ View Post
    quick cheap fix would be wet sand with 1500-2000 grit, then take a buffer and use a compound like meguires ultimate, or similiar and buff until mirror shine.
    You can get a shine that way but the surface will be porous and still look white. Been there tried that just last weekend on my 99. Black spray paint after fine sanding at least makes it black. The clear coat is actually missing in spots in this case, at least thats how it looks from here.
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    yeah, the clear is deff missing in spots.
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    duplicolor rattle can took my bumper from this.



    to this.




    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Spam! Scotty works for Duplicolor.
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    scotty did do a sexy job.
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    inb4odi becuz racekar peel!!! lol
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    its not spam it you like the product. is it?

    theres a bit more involved filler, sanding, primer, paint, clear coat, more sanding and a DA buffer.


    the front got a simple sanding and repaint for the most part, and a 1/2 ass crack repair on the unseen bottom.

    you can see the white on the flat tops. failed to hold a shine too.




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    scotty why dont you have a write up on this?
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    ive got enough pics, but a vid is much better to learn how to spray and sand. truth is i think i have 3 hours tied up in the front bumper over 2 days time, that includes removal and replacement of it.

    the sanding is easy and quick for prepping, the paint drys rather fast, its only 10 minutes between coats, clear coats you put on a coat a minute or so. or as per your clear coat directions.

    and its all dry to the touch in less then a hour. wait 24 hrs, wet sand the clear, and buff the scratches out. and it shines like magic.

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    what gets me is all the prep work that goes into it the more you do the better it will be in the end and the less color sanding you have to do later on.
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    ive yet to wet sand the paint. as long as you dont get drips, runs or touch it when wet you can clear right over the paint. after you wait 10 minutes, then clear coat the crap out of it. more clear the better 3 or 4 coats. once again if you dont get runs wet sanding is easy when its dry 24 hr later.

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    I went from white to black with a few passes of glossy black DC rattle can last weekend. I had already tried sanding and buffing but the clear was toast. All I painted was the affected area. I may smooth it out and lay some more then rub that a little, what 's shown is a little dry and rough due to troubles with the can nozzle.





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    That looks pretty good for a quick fix, at least from that picture. So you literally just sprayed over it with that DC can? Do you plan on putting clear over it later? Like I said I don't know anything about painting and am afraid of making it look really bad lol, but I'm not taking it to a body shop for them to charge me 300 to paint my bumper... there's better things to spend that money on
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    you would need to wet sand the white crap off with 1000 to 1200 grit paper, then use some prep spray to remove any oils grease or wax left on the paint, then spray with the paint, then clear coat.

    watch some youtube vids, its what i did. pics dont show how to put a pass of paint down. you want a 50% over lap of each pass, same speed, same distance away every time. light coats add up nice and dont run on you.

    dulicolor cans have a fan tip, it will lay down a 6 inch wide pass of paint almost. just like a real air spray gun does.

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