Halo Projector for 97-03 grandprix

**Osvaldo831** · 06-27-2012

I wanna buy some of those spyder halo projectors for my pontiac, I don't mind buying a HID kit to make them look better but I was just curious if they really do make a difference in the road. Me & my girlfriend drive every weekend from our city to her parents town and we encounter some pretty dark roads and have to drive slower since our stock headlights suck. And I was also curious if the halo headlights use the H1 bulb and the 9005 for there highs?

Post some pics if u guys have some of your headlights

**GTP89** · 06-28-2012

I actually have almost the same ones except mine are LED never installed them still new. but i dont see why the light output wouldnt be good.

**Osvaldo831** · 06-28-2012

Originally Posted by GTP89

I actually have almost the same ones except mine are LED never installed them still new. but i dont see why the light output wouldnt be good.

And what light bulb size do yours use? do 2 light bulb fit in there or just the original lightbulb and the turn signal?

**GTP89** · 06-28-2012

It has the H1 for the projector and the 9005 for high.

**Osvaldo831** · 06-28-2012

Originally Posted by GTP89

It has the H1 for the projector and the 9005 for high.

Perfect, Hope they come out good when i order them on my next check. Thanks alot

**blackflag** · 06-28-2012

I thought it was general knowledge that 97-03 projectors have TERRIBLE light output and weird cutoff

**ItHurtz** · 06-28-2012

04+ has crap output. I love my projectors, better light than hid in oem. weird cut off who cares, I like to see at night

**Osvaldo831** · 06-28-2012

Originally Posted by ITHURTZ

04+ has crap output. I love my projectors, better light than hid in oem. weird cut off who cares, I like to see at night

True that, gotta agree with you. I'm gonna purchase some tomorrow wen i get paid, what HID kit are you using on your projector? And is the high beam brighter or not much compared to the low beam?

**mikeygan17** · 07-05-2012

Originally Posted by ITHURTZ

04+ has crap output. I love my projectors, better light than hid in oem. weird cut off who cares, I like to see at night

i love the projectors on my 97 as well (LED version instead of CCFL) with HID's in the low beams, they work great, but high beams kinda suck... the cut off is exactly like an older style BMW, so if back then rich mofos could handle it and not complain, i think we can do the same, if it bothers you that much, you could just swap out the projector and retro the SpyderAuto projectors, this was my plan as i was palnning on going quad projectors, replacing the projectors that were there already as well, this way quad low beam and quad high beam, i have yet to see it be done, however that plan has now vanished as i moved up to a GXP, i dont plan on changing my GXP's lighting though, unless i go the way Mr.Angry did or Drunkie

these headlights that you bought though will most likely need the bounce mod to them so they dont annoy you, zip ties, and weather stripping work great, also make sure all screws and tight, mine were loose... enjoy the new looks and output

**ItHurtz** · 06-28-2012

I used DDM for when I had HID in oem housing, got vvme bulbs in there right now. Ordered 5k and got sent 4300k.

The high beam with the bulb they give u vs HID low there is NO comparison. I can "see" with the halogen highs but thats about it. Aim those projectors to the sweet spot and you should almost not need any highs.

**Osvaldo831** · 06-28-2012

Originally Posted by ITHURTZ

I used DDM for when I had HID in oem housing, got vvme bulbs in there right now. Ordered 5k and got sent 4300k.

The high beam with the bulb they give u vs HID low there is NO comparison. I can "see" with the halogen highs but thats about it. Aim those projectors to the sweet spot and you should almost not need any highs.

Can't wait to get mine then, & yea I been seeing that vvme are the HIDs that are good. Did you get the H1 for the low beam? finally no getting off the line anymore

I see you have some different fogs on your default. What kind of fogs are those?

**nikkigpgt00** · 06-28-2012

I just ordered a set of these...beside the 9005 and H1 bulb what other bulbs do I need? What is the turn signal bulb?

**The Guz** · 06-29-2012

Originally Posted by nikkigpgt00

What is the turn signal bulb?

Same as stock.

**Osvaldo831** · 06-29-2012

Originally Posted by The Guz

Same as stock.

So its the, stock turn signal. 9005 bulb for the high beams? and a h1 low beam HID kit?
Do the low & high beam bulbs come or no bulbs come ?
What can I do to keep them from fogging and will I need anything like plastic films to protect anything? Weather stripping to level it?

**GTP89** · 07-02-2012

Originally Posted by Osvaldo831

So its the, stock turn signal. 9005 bulb for the high beams? and a h1 low beam HID kit?
Do the low & high beam bulbs come or no bulbs come ?
What can I do to keep them from fogging and will I need anything like plastic films to protect anything? Weather stripping to level it?

they should come with low & high beams and wire to hook it up plug and play type of thing. from fogging i would add a layer of rtv black silicone all around the housing were it mates to the lens and seal it as well as you can. as far as leveling i have no idea i have them but never hooked them up to my car.

**Osvaldo831** · 07-04-2012

Originally Posted by GTP89

they should come with low & high beams and wire to hook it up plug and play type of thing. from fogging i would add a layer of rtv black silicone all around the housing were it mates to the lens and seal it as well as you can. as far as leveling i have no idea i have them but never hooked them up to my car.

Yea can't wait to get mine in to put them in my grand prix and hit the roads at night

**Osvaldo831** · 06-29-2012

Oh and hey, what's the difference between CCFL and dual halo projectors.. I seen both on this page and one includes the CCFL. But they cost more so what's so special about them because to me they look the same as the other once without the CCFL

**GTP89** · 07-02-2012

Originally Posted by Osvaldo831

Oh and hey, what's the difference between CCFL and dual halo projectors.. I seen both on this page and one includes the CCFL. But they cost more so what's so special about them because to me they look the same as the other once without the CCFL

the ccfl are a neon type of ring where as the other projector rings use 2 leds per ring so the notice of the ring on doesnt light up as much as the ccfl. Youtube Grand prix projectors and its the one with the green car comparing the 2

**Osvaldo831** · 07-04-2012

Originally Posted by GTP89

the ccfl are a neon type of ring where as the other projector rings use 2 leds per ring so the notice of the ring on doesnt light up as much as the ccfl. Youtube Grand prix projectors and its the one with the green car comparing the 2

I checked the video out, I went with the CCFL they look way better then the led halo.

**ItHurtz** · 06-30-2012

Turn signal is like 3457All, make sure the bulb is orange.

Parking light is 194, mine had clear so I had to go out and get amber (194A) 194R is red.

CCFL and dual halos are what the rings are.

Mine havent fogged yet, but you can run a bead of silicone around the edge where the lens meets the housing.

I put some stripping under mine, they bounced a little more than my oem housings so its not a big deal for me.

Mine came with bulbs, I suggest HIDS and not to use the pos halogens.

Originally Posted by Osvaldo831

Can't wait to get mine then, & yea I been seeing that vvme are the HIDs that are good. Did you get the H1 for the low beam? finally no getting off the line anymore

I see you have some different fogs on your default. What kind of fogs are those?

DDM's are good. I run all DDM except for the bulbs. One day Ill be ordering 5k from DDM since VVME sent me the wrong kelvin. Yes I have the H1 HID's for the lows.

The fogs in my pic are advance auto "blazer" 4" glass universal fog lights.