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    Basically I need to know what is the best plug in and go bulbs I can use for my car? Are there any that can also give me a white light and not yellow? Need new bulbs because one of mine went out so just wondering whats out there for plug in and go. Thanks.
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    Silverstars
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandprixGT01 View Post
    Basically I need to know what is the best plug in and go bulbs I can use for my car? Are there any that can also give me a white light and not yellow? Need new bulbs because one of mine went out so just wondering whats out there for plug in and go. Thanks.

    If you are going to stick to halogen's I have heard that silvania silverstar's are pretty good and provide a fairly white light. But with HID kit's so cheap now, you are better to go that route IMO. 4300k provides the most light output and also the whitest. They are also pretty much plug and play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron92 View Post
    If you are going to stick to halogen's I have heard that silvania silverstar's are pretty good and provide a fairly white light. But with HID kit's so cheap now, you are better to go that route IMO. 4300k provides the most light output and also the whitest. They are also pretty much plug and play.
    I wouldnt mind getting exactly what you have I like the look. More info plz lol
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    The sylvania silver stars are around 50 buck and a good single beam hid kit is around 70. go with hid much better light output. Also the silver stars arent much brighter than the stock bulb in my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug 97 gtp View Post
    The sylvania silver stars are around 50 buck and a good single beam hid kit is around 70. go with hid much better light output. Also the silver stars arent much brighter than the stock bulb in my opinion
    So if I were to get that I would just have low beams but really bright lights and just have to plug in the bulbs?
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    i was going to get the single beam hid's but for 20 bucks more (including shipping 90 bucks total) i got the bi xenon hid's and there supposed to be bright as hell. If you get single beam hid's and if you turn your fog lights on the high beam light on the cluster will light up because of the power going through the stock harness so i got the bi xenon's. Its a whole kit including ballast's the bulbs the power cable the ignitors the hardware and the relay harness . Its not as complicated as it seems to be. Here's a tutorial for you. http://www.vvme.com/page.html?chapter=3&id=21
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    Basically the problem is that like every other gp my stock headlights are bad. On nights where the road is dry there good but when its wet out it looks like I have no lights on what so ever. So therefore I want to upgrade but the problem is I dont have much knowledge on anything to do with lights and then when I read up on it here on the forum people talk about this and talk about that then my heads spinning in circles and im confused. I would like to get projector headlights but then some people say theres problems with them. So then some people say get HIDs but then theres problems with the bulbs not fitting in the stock headlight. Im just confused and kno little to none can someone clarify this please lol. Greatly appreciated thanks.
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    silvetstars I got mine on ebay for $28.00 brand new you have to hunt but they are good
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    I'm in the same boat as the OP.

    One of my headlights went out recently; like three weeks ago. I haven't replaced it yet because I've been on the fence about switching over to HID's. The money doesn't bother me (too much) as long as I don't have to fork over my left n*t.

    But there's so much (mis)information out there about HID's. Some say avoid it like the plague (you'll be blinding everybody else), others say go for it! From what I've read (and absorbed) this is what one is looking at when switching over to HID's :

    1) Legalities - I won't get into this as it varies from region to region. So unless you're a practicing lawyer who has sound knowledge about this in my region (Ontario, Canada), let's keep it moving. But if you do plan on investing in HID's you may want to go to the source (the police) and flat out ASK THEM. I'm allergic to asking for legal advice on internet forums (I'm just sayin').

    2) Housing - I've read numerous posts indicating that unless the vehicle is originally equipped with HID's, you should avoid it because it'll melt the housing. Seriously? But in all fairness I've read other posts that say this is utter nonsense. If anybody can shed some light on this matter....please....teach....impart your wisdom unto me.

    3) PLUG 'N' PLAY - From what I understand, if you want HID's to function properly, unless your vehicle came with HID's (OEM) you will be required to modify your lighting system. While there are numerous kits out there that boast their system is "plug 'n' play", these will inevitably create problems for you later down the road. Part of modifying your lighting system (as I understand it) is that you will need an HID Projector so that it can create an appropriate lighting pattern ahead of you (so that you're not blinding everybody else) and getting the police's attention. Actually there's another thread on this site that talks about modifying your lighting system : http://www.grandprixforums.net/hid-p...fit-29928.html

    Without sounding like a complete shill, if one wanted "Plug 'n' Play", the closest thing I've found so far is right here : The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications. I'm looking into it myself (right now).

    Yup....lotta information out there. Until I get it all sorted out, I'll be that loon driving with one light out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YMS1975 View Post
    I'm in the same boat as the OP.

    One of my headlights went out recently; like three weeks ago. I haven't replaced it yet because I've been on the fence about switching over to HID's. The money doesn't bother me (too much) as long as I don't have to fork over my left n*t.

    But there's so much (mis)information out there about HID's. Some say avoid it like the plague (you'll be blinding everybody else), others say go for it! From what I've read (and absorbed) this is what one is looking at when switching over to HID's :

    1) Legalities - I won't get into this as it varies from region to region. So unless you're a practicing lawyer who has sound knowledge about this in my region (Ontario, Canada), let's keep it moving. But if you do plan on investing in HID's you may want to go to the source (the police) and flat out ASK THEM. I'm allergic to asking for legal advice on internet forums (I'm just sayin').

    2) Housing - I've read numerous posts indicating that unless the vehicle is originally equipped with HID's, you should avoid it because it'll melt the housing. Seriously? But in all fairness I've read other posts that say this is utter nonsense. If anybody can shed some light on this matter....please....teach....impart your wisdom unto me.

    3) PLUG 'N' PLAY - From what I understand, if you want HID's to function properly, unless your vehicle came with HID's (OEM) you will be required to modify your lighting system. While there are numerous kits out there that boast their system is "plug 'n' play", these will inevitably create problems for you later down the road. Part of modifying your lighting system (as I understand it) is that you will need an HID Projector so that it can create an appropriate lighting pattern ahead of you (so that you're not blinding everybody else) and getting the police's attention. Actually there's another thread on this site that talks about modifying your lighting system : http://www.grandprixforums.net/hid-p...fit-29928.html

    Without sounding like a complete shill, if one wanted "Plug 'n' Play", the closest thing I've found so far is right here : The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications. I'm looking into it myself (right now).

    Yup....lotta information out there. Until I get it all sorted out, I'll be that loon driving with one light out.
    Well put. I just keep on going around in circles and since I dont know much about lights right now I think I will just replace the bulbs lol.
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    The silverstars are still a little yellow but more white than the factory halogens. They do tend to burn out quicker than a standard halogen. Also remember that the blue coating on the bulb that provides the whiter light actually limits the light ouput. I myself use the philips x-treme power bulbs.

    If you have an 04+ then you can use HIR bulbs.
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    1. legality
    properly aimed headlights and colored lights will insure you won't get a real ticket

    2 housing
    cheap plastic usually is what melts, especially when you go from 35w to 55w hid's (why the 97-03 fogs sometimes melt)
    now, a better quality housing, that was properly designed to dissipate heat and avoid uit at the same time will work fine. (most 00+ headlights)

    3 plug n play
    most hid's will work randomly when just thrown together w/ bulb connectors and thats it
    so to fix a light oput or flickering you get a relay harness to supply the hids all the power they want straight from the battery w/o ****ing up the factory wiring. but because most vehicles were not designed for hid's there are bulb checkers that usually try and alert you to a bulb being out., so had to run resistors that matched the draw from a halogen bulb to reset the flickering lights and light out.

    BI-XENON in factory housings w/o a retro
    don't waste your money, all it is is a little magnet that pulls the bulb so it recreates a high beam spread. but w/o changing the intensity for the bulbs. they wll break and the bulbs cost the same as a single beam hid kit shipped,

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    Quote Originally Posted by z3r0 View Post
    BI-XENON in factory housings w/o a retro
    don't waste your money, all it is is a little magnet that pulls the bulb so it recreates a high beam spread. but w/o changing the intensity for the bulbs. they wll break and the bulbs cost the same as a single beam hid kit shipped,
    yes and no.

    if you get a 'good' bixenon set the bulb will have two filaments in it. when you switch to high beams it will switch to the other filament that is placed farther forwards. that is where the 'you get what you pay for' comes into play with HIDs. i had these and they are a much, much nicer setup than the cheap magnetic/telescopic sets.
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    In my honest opinion, retrofit is the best way to go. The light output is phenomenal, and done properly does not bother oncoming traffic. Now this process isn't just slap and go, it requires some modifications to your headlight housing. If this is your daily driver, I would suggest getting another set to do a retrofit on. Of course this costs a decent amount, but you will be happy with the results. If you have more questions about this, I know more and more people are doing retros on here.

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    Thanks for the info guys.
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