I used the converter that I got from pick apart with the tranny. So the new (used) one. Also wasn't to familiar with it had it in the street with H.O.A threatening to tow so I was rushed and didn't watch any videos or read up on it first. The converter fell off the tranny in my trunk during transport. I slipped it back on shaft and it went rather easily, I would say the mounts to bolt on the converter were flush with case of tranny my buddy tapped gently with a rubber mallet and it didn't recess anymore so we put it on.