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    looking to set up a race with a stock 04+ grand prix. i hope im posting in the correct forum. I have a 2005 grand prix with a plog + downpipe set up. I have 24 inch rims however and wanting to see how i stack up. (FLAME SUIT ON FOR THE WHEELS)
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    I think the heavy rims will hold you back some, and I hope the transmission holds out.

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    technically it hasnt. the stock one went out right around 122 thousand. so it lasted another 15 thousand miles with them on. hoping to get a built one soon though.
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    Put some stock wheels on it and go faster.
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    I would but its more fun to beat unsuspecting cars with big wheels on....
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    Unsuspecting what...V6 four liter mustangs?
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    I am going to have to agree with the above posts. Don't bother racing with those big wheels. They eat up power. I have been to several dyno days where guys were ticked at what power they put down so they would swap their back tires with someone else who had lighter/smaller tires and picked up a bunch of power. These weren't tires as big as yours either. Think 20" wheels on a FBody or Corvette.

    Considering how much $$$ people spend trying to get more power, you can do it much easier by swapping wheels. I would imagine with those wheels there aren't too many cars you will surprise and beat by a decent margin unless you have significant mods.

    As also mentioned, you are putting strain on your transmission with those bigger wheels even if you aren't beating on it. Miami is a warm climate so I bet your trans temps stay up most of the time even with stock wheels. The bigger wheels are making it worse and shortening the life of your transmission even if you aren't beating on it. Do you at least have a tranny cooler on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadfootCJ7 View Post
    I am going to have to agree with the above posts. Don't bother racing with those big wheels. They eat up power. I have been to several dyno days where guys were ticked at what power they put down so they would swap their back tires with someone else who had lighter/smaller tires and picked up a bunch of power. These weren't tires as big as yours either. Think 20" wheels on a FBody or Corvette.

    Considering how much $$$ people spend trying to get more power, you can do it much easier by swapping wheels. I would imagine with those wheels there aren't too many cars you will surprise and beat by a decent margin unless you have significant mods.

    As also mentioned, you are putting strain on your transmission with those bigger wheels even if you aren't beating on it. Miami is a warm climate so I bet your trans temps stay up most of the time even with stock wheels. The bigger wheels are making it worse and shortening the life of your transmission even if you aren't beating on it. Do you at least have a tranny cooler on it?
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    technically it hasnt. the stock one went out right around 122 thousand. so it lasted another 15 thousand miles with them on. hoping to get a built one soon though.
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    I understand what you guys are saying, however to each his own. I have beat a few cars racing though. mostly hondas. i played with a 2003 monte carlo supercharged. But didnt get to line up evenly. The car right now feels how it did when it was stock hence why i want to race a stock 04+ grand prix
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    Someone race this boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king04305 View Post
    I understand what you guys are saying, however to each his own. I have beat a few cars racing though. mostly hondas. i played with a 2003 monte carlo supercharged. But didnt get to line up evenly. The car right now feels how it did when it was stock hence why i want to race a stock 04+ grand prix
    I think you would lose how's that
    ride with those 24's? with those low profile tires i WOULDN'T do dig races even if I imagined to race those size wheels..


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    I'd race him if I were in FL.
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    Where's dmalghihkgihikkikikGT or whatever, he's in florida.

    So is Z28phoenix.
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    I'd let you win if your car looked like this:

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    If your car looked like that I'd try to have you committed.
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    Travis is in Florida, I bet he has something for you.



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    i never understood why people would want too put a set of 24 inch "Chromies." on a car that they intend too be quick, yet again never understood what was so fascinating with wheels 24 inches in diameter with tires with a profile of 20% or less, to me they don't even look that good and most certainly have no benefit in performance. id rather have a set of 235/50R17 semi slicks with aluminum wheels powder coated gun metal or black and more aimed towards performance rather than "appearance." thats just me.

    those heavy wheels will not only be rough on your drivetrain, but they will also probably greatly increase the unsprung weight of the vehicle which limits the time the tires come into contact with the road, low profile tires do not absorb road shock as much and if i remember correctly beacuse they have such a low profile they do not provide a good footprint too the ground and will also increase the resistance on the engine and drivetrain which will effect acceleration.

    sorry i believe in function over "looks" for the price of those wheels i am sure i could get, ratio rockers, and upgrade my ignition system and even maybe get a free flow cat with a magnaflow muffler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G8tor View Post
    I'd let you win if your car looked like this:

    that would make me sick too my stomach...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13aceofspades13 View Post
    that made me sick too my stomach...

    Fixed it for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadfootCJ7 View Post
    Fixed it for you
    we need a thumbs up button.

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