Thread: I died...

I see the party started with out me (Mark VIII Driver).


The info not being said here is how this race came to be... I heard this guy with a GTP was talking crap. (This was Wen night)
"It's never seen tail lights"
So I said, "Well hell, I'll race him with the wifes car".
The reply I got was "Oh, the GTP is not stock. It has aftermarket everything".
Me-"and..."
the Reply-"Well he runs race gas, so he will only race for $100"
Me-"Well if he wants a money race, it's a $1000 and I bring my mustang. If he wants a free race, he can race the wifes car."
the Reply-"...... "
Me-"Ah F--k it. Lets go to the ATM"
the Reply- "Uh, he can't do it tonight. We will have to wait till thurs or fri"
Me-"Well I have plans till midnight thurs and it's going to get cold, but whatever"

Then you see what became of thurs night..

You think tires won that. HA. I spun, shifted INTO 2nd at 3500rpm, spun through 2nd and PULLED away the whole time. POWER won that race- plain and simple.

The car weighs 3800lbs EMPTY, so with the two of us riding in it over 4000lbs



Moral of the story, don't act like your the fastest car around. There are plenty of faster ones. (including faster ones than mine)


Let's see, a little about My Wife's car he raced against:
1993 Lincoln Mark VIII 160,xxx mile 4.6 DOHC (STOCK HEADS, STOCK BOTTOM END, & STOCK MARK VIII INTAKE MANIFOLD)

-97 Cobra intake cams, 03 cobra exhaust cams
-E-water pump
-UD pulley
-Gutted air box w/ k&n filter
-4r70w trans w/ transgo shift kit
-Edge 4000 stall
-4.56s gears
-Stock Mark VIII exhaust w/ NO cats and e-cutout

....And the wife's other car is a 2006 TBSS









Buddies car (left), My car (Middle), Wife's car (right)





I took your mod list from what YOU posted here:

"Major modifications: Stage 2 Intercooled, all custom exhaust, nitrous tubes in the trunk "
That's what you put:
View Profile: gtpsleeper - Pontiac Grand Prix Forums : Grandprix


FYI MY Lincoln-
1996 Lincoln Mark VIII
- 4.6 DOHC b series heads (stock)
- super car GT Cams
- Ported Cobra Intake w/ modified runners
- Built 4.6 DOHC (Manley Rods, Probe Pistons, Cobra Crank, ARP Everything)
- Vortech V2 Si-trim Supercharger Kit (intercooled 22psi boost)
- Procharger BIG RED BOV
- Custom Powerpipe
- Snow Performance stage 2 Methanol Injection w/ Twin 625ml Nozzles. One PRE-blower, ONE POST-blower
- NX nitrous kit w/ NANO nitrous (up to 175 shot)
- Innovators West 18% overdrive pulley
- 3.125 Blower pulley
- 8-rib Conversion
- Accufab sigle blade TB
- MMR IMRC Deletes
- Meziere Electric Water Pump
- HPX MAF
- Custom Kooks Headers w/ 3" collectors
- Custom 3" pipes from collectors y-piped into the 3.5" cutout
- 3.5" Electric cutout
- Custom Twin 255lpm fuel pumps
- 80lb Injectors
- Kenne Bell Boost a Spark
- MSD wires
- MSD Coil Packs
- Mild Built 4r70w Tranny w/ AODE gear set and a TransGo Shift kit
- ART CARR 3000 stall
- 3.73 gears


OLDER PICS











Vid:

Mark VIII 1st fire - YouTube






And my '97 Mustang:
MMR monster Mod 1500 5.4
garret 88mm t6 turbo
NX kit (for quicker spool )
Turbo smart Eboost boost controller
HKS 60mm gate
31x12x4 intercooler
Sheet-metal upper intake
Aeromotive eliminator fuel sytem
Bosch 160lb injectors w/ Versa fueler
SCT BA3000
accufab TB
Clutch turbo TH400 w/ Quicktime bell
McLeod twin disc w/ Borg&Beck long
33 spline 8.8 w/ 3.27 gears
Qa1 tubular k-member
90/10 Lakewood fronts
Moroso trick springs (front)
Lakewood Manual rack w/ bump steer kit
Manual Brakes
UPR double Adjustable upper and lower control arms
UPR Anti-Roll bar
E-water pump
No AC or PS (of course)





VIDS:

88mm turbo 5.4 DOHC Mustang 1st fire - YouTube

97 Mustang 5.4 DOHC on the 2 Step - YouTube




And the latest one I finished- My 2001 Triumph TT600 that I just fiished putting a Turbo on










Needless to say your boy here (GTPsleeper) talked **** to the wrong guy and got his ass beat by a car built for my wife, end of story. Probably shouldnt antagonize someone you know nothing about.

.....and Im a "nobody" aswell, I have friends faster than me. "There is always someone faster" Unless your Larry Larson- then you ARE the top of the food chain.




Jared, for future reference. Don't come off "like a badass" and you'll be just fine. Your car is quick for what it is.

Originally Posted by Slowpoke

Also, I R confused.

Just a joke then? What's a nitrous tube?

Gear ratio helped out then on the race. Running 4.56 to the op's 2.93 or 3.29. Doesn't seem like your wifes mark would make more than about 30hp over stock? Not real sure on that though.

Originally Posted by lsxkilr

Without getting into a full trans ratios and final drive ratios debate. I'll focus on the highlights.

What is Jared's max rpm before he shifts? - 5000rpm?
The white Lincoln is 7500rpm, so it need the gear to get it up on it's power band. It has 2500 rpms more than Jared to spin before the shift.

He shifts at stock shift points, because he has stock valve springs. He isn't taking full advantage of his valvetrain mods (rockers) and should be running it to about 6K-6200, 5500 RPM isn't cutting it.

Originally Posted by lsxkilr

Think about it like this. A bike typically has a 14,000rpm red line. Now I don't know off the top of my head, but think about how short the gearing is on those to get them up on their powerband.

Thanks for the lesson, but we know how it works.

Originally Posted by lsxkilr

Now in saying all that, I shifted into 2nd (1-2 shift) at 3500rpm. (you can hear it in the video) Then I got WOT in 2nd, and shifted out at 5000rpm on the 2-3 shift (...on one race, 6800rpms on the other race)

That's right, he only posted the one vid. Here is the other:

Steff's car vs GTP 1 - YouTube

I saw it, you have dumb gearing in that car, of course you're going to yank that car from a dig and make it look way worse than it really is. Go run it from a 40 or 60 roll. It'll be a totally different ball game.

Yeah, the "science" of street racing. All details figure into the hyposthesis.

lawl at Lincoln guy posting here.

lawlz at Jarred losing to the Titanic.

lulzville @ everything I missed.

lawlz at Jarred losing to the Titanic.

Hilarious !

Originally Posted by thegipper

lawlz at Jarred losing to the Titanic.

Hilarious !

if ya cant laugh at yourself... whats the point... lol

Well this is entertaining...

Originally Posted by BoostenGTP

Well this is entertaining...

Yeah, like looking at an accident. You don't see anything you like but you can't look away.

Originally Posted by Sudden

You don't see anything you like but you can't look away.

Like when someone yells, "naked fat chick"?

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

Like when someone yells, "naked fat chick"?

I seriously LOLed hard when i read this.

I understand that you need the gear. I did hear you spinning in the video were your tires not warmed up? GP's suck to try to get traction in anyway jarred might need a driver mod and drag radials?

Originally Posted by lsxkilr

"Go run it from a 40 or 60 roll. It'll be a totally different ball game." Think how bad it would have been if i hooked and used all of 1st gear.

I highly doubt you're in first gear at 40 or 60 mph, with 4.56 gearing.