Quote Originally Posted by shadowgtp View Post
i would laugh and say omg you are so right why dont i trade in my slow pontiac and pick up a ford van. that would've been the more intelligent decision. flamingdevil: oh and some of the old dodge caravans were stock turbo as crazy as that is.

those were the turbo 2.2L from the early 90's. They were still dogs from the factory, but lightly modded those could be quick. fastest I know of was 12.1 don't recall trap speed. That was with less than 6 grand including the vehicle for 3k.