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    Quote Originally Posted by TorqueAutoMotiv View Post
    they took gov money just not the huge bail out deal dont think ford didnt get any help along the way but yes their cars are becoming more upto date and more attractive to the buyer
    Have any numbers to back this info up? Just asking.

    Ford sold White, volvo, Mazda, a couple other companies over seas, New Holland, didnt renew contracts with vendors and started doing much more in house. GM couldn't do this due to their Union contracts and the fact if they sold any of one line it would give that new owner information on their current setup for their other lines that they didnt want to share. Much easier to get in the welfare line and not break the union(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGhost View Post
    Have any numbers to back this info up? Just asking.

    Ford sold White, volvo, Mazda, a couple other companies over seas, New Holland, didnt renew contracts with vendors and started doing much more in house. GM couldn't do this due to their Union contracts and the fact if they sold any of one line it would give that new owner information on their current setup for their other lines that they didnt want to share. Much easier to get in the welfare line and not break the union(s).
    I will try and find the article
    basically they took a smaller loan from the gov before the massive bailout that gm got it wasnt as heafty of an amount but wasnt chump change either

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