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    Hi guys, so besides for my cam, i still need to get modified retainers and 105lb valve springs. Besides a new water pump, aluminum coolant elbows, and single timing chain, what else would i need? All of those were recomennded by Paul at PRJ (besides for the single timing chain, he recommended double but im sure singles enough with 105 springs). I was thinking about ZZP's install call that inlcudes:
    • Timing chain dampener
    • 12 COMP CAMS reuseable rocker bolts
    • supercharger gasket (except L36/22)
    • 2 coolant passage O-rings (except L36/22)
    • GM oem aluminum intake gasket set
    • front cover gasket
    • ARP assembly lube
    • valve cover gaskets
    • crank bolt
    • cam bolt

      Also, with the single timing chain, should i just get the chain, or the rollmaster single chain timing set?
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    What cam?


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
    2001 GTP - cam, headers, nitrous, stock trans - 11.83 @ 116 <$2k in mods - sold
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    VS.
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    Reuse the crank bolt and cam bolt and just go with a single stock replacement chain.
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
    04 Comp G.
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    everything else is good tho? Dont want to come up short handed when the time comes.
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    Grommets but those should come with the Vc gaskets


    And oil

    And that's all I can tell you need beside what you've listed.
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Valve stem seals? and some RTV to seal the corners of the LIM
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    I'm going with ls7 lifters when I do mine but that seems about right.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
    08 g8 gt cam exhaust 11.87@118
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    Don't reuse your cam bolt. That's a bad idea.

    I would just use a new stock chain and dampner as well, and plan on replacing it every 30k miles or so. The double will last longer, but I don't really like the extra noise and vibration that is causes when it's not needed.


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
    2001 GTP - cam, headers, nitrous, stock trans - 11.83 @ 116 <$2k in mods - sold
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88formula View Post
    Valve stem seals? and some RTV to seal the corners of the LIM
    RTV normally comes with the LIM's in the kit....normally.

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    I'm going with ls7 lifters when I do mine but that seems about right.
    According to Matt, LS7 lifters are shorter than stock ones...by just a hair, so something you might want to double check.
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    hmm good to know
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
    08 g8 gt cam exhaust 11.87@118
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueguy91
    According to Matt, LS7 lifters are shorter than stock ones...by just a hair, so something you might want to double check.
    Hmm didn't know that
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Should I go with intenses Manley retainers? Or with zzp's modified or titanium retainers. Idk the pros or cons
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    I would just get a milled steel retainer, like zzp sells.


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
    2001 GTP - cam, headers, nitrous, stock trans - 11.83 @ 116 <$2k in mods - sold
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    new cam and crank bolts are a good idea since they are designed to stretch (one time use) like head and rocker bolts. i used the manely retainers and viton seals, no leaks. and a new single chain and dampener will be fine, and as long as you replace any gasket you rip off (if its old) you will be fine...oh yeah and get an S1X!
    '04 Chevy Silverado LT 4x4 - intake, headers, full exhaust, zo6 cam, 799 heads, tune, leveled, 33's
    '00 Grand Prix GTP DAYTONA 500 - L36 block, S1X, intercooled, GenV, N*, headers, full exhaust, coilovers, 5 speed swap, stage 3+ clutch
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    Too late, already have the VS lol. Ill check out the manleys. So don't go with the titanium retainers Zzp sells? The "modified" ones or manleys pretty much?
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    TRADE! one of my buddies used zzp's and they were a nightmare, the manleys were easy and they work
    '04 Chevy Silverado LT 4x4 - intake, headers, full exhaust, zo6 cam, 799 heads, tune, leveled, 33's
    '00 Grand Prix GTP DAYTONA 500 - L36 block, S1X, intercooled, GenV, N*, headers, full exhaust, coilovers, 5 speed swap, stage 3+ clutch
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    But I feel the VS is better since I mainly drive around town in the 20-50 MPH range. And alright I'll go with Manley retainers. These correct with crow 105's? INTENSE-Racing.com: Manley Performance Valvespring Retainers
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    No reason to go with titanium retainers with this cam. Steel is fine.


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
    2001 GTP - cam, headers, nitrous, stock trans - 11.83 @ 116 <$2k in mods - sold
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    Is the titanium just stronger? For big cams?
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
    08 g8 gt cam exhaust 11.87@118
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