Does powder coating fade

[Logan541]

Thanks

[Logan541]

Paid may 29th they shipped august 7th I got them aug 15

[dpzelenak]

so was this ever settled?

[Logan541]

Nope spartan seems to have disappeared so it look like I will try that charge back option hate to do it to him knowing it will cost him $20.00 and may close his paypal account but I have tried and time is running out

[TLSheff]

Do what you need to do to protect yourself. If I were you tho I would have the calipers sitting in a box in the same condition for a little while. Give time for it to blow over, the right thing to do if you get your money back is to have the calipers returned to him so you can wash your hands of it.

Sux because you'd be back at square one and still in need of powdercoated calipers, but would give you the option to just upgrade to F-Body or GXPs and have them coated. Frankly I plan to just prep my F-body calipers really well and paint them with engine enamel and clear and bake them so they are solid. They are calipers so $$$ to powdercoat them to just have something chip them is wasted money, painting looks as good and is easily touch-upable lol

[BlownBigBlock]

Not that I claim to be a professional but I've had plenty of parts "powdercoated" in my time. I've never come across a piece that I had done that looked like this with obvious brush strokes on it..

[Logan541]

and check out the rust inside the piston cylinder and the dust and he said rebuilt at 1500 miles ago...and that was AFTER I wiped it all clean with a paper towel

[Logan541]

Do what you need to do to protect yourself. If I were you tho I would have the calipers sitting in a box in the same condition for a little while. Give time for it to blow over, the right thing to do if you get your money back is to have the calipers returned to him so you can wash your hands of it.

Sux because you'd be back at square one and still in need of powdercoated calipers, but would give you the option to just upgrade to F-Body or GXPs and have them coated. Frankly I plan to just prep my F-body calipers really well and paint them with engine enamel and clear and bake them so they are solid. They are calipers so $$$ to powdercoat them to just have something chip them is wasted money, painting looks as good and is easily touch-upable lol

Yeah I am going to use G2 caliper paint I am just wondering about grabbing a set of F body brakes from a junk yard or do my own, just wonder how much of a paint the conversion is I'm sure theirs a thread on here somewhere

[TLSheff]

Simple. Just get the front brakes and the brackets for them. Bore the holes out for the same size as the GP bracket bolts so they mount up and get new lines to go in place of the stock rubber ones and your're all set.

Of course you need proper F-body pads and rotors from the 05-06 Montes, but the hardest part is to get the brackets drilled and tapped for the bolt, and that isn't that hard to do.

[redlinepontiac]

or run the spacers for the bracket bolts

[TLSheff]

or run the spacers for the bracket bolts

Safer to have it drilled and tapped for the proper bolt. Sleeves are never a good idea longterm

[Logan541]

Ok so let me get this straight I just need is a set of calipers and rotors from a 05 06 monte to do this? and aren't the montes larger rotors like 13"? and is there really a noticeable difference? Only modes I have are functional ram air and I will be adding headers in the future and that's about it. Also if I decide to keep my stock calipers they are not leaking and work fine but they do have 307,000 miles on them should I rebuild them or just wait till they go?

[Scottydoggs]

if you think you car stops ok now.....F bodys will make you smile ear to ear, cause the stock brakes just flat out suck balls.

[TLSheff]

GXPs run a 13" rotor. 05-06 montes run a regular 12" rotor.

All you should need is

Calipers and brackets for F-body and matching pads
or
Calipers and brackets for a 05-06 monte and matching pads

05-06 monte rotors

if you go with the F-body calipers you need to have the brackets drilled and tapped for the factory mounting bolts to the knuckle.

You could keep the stock ones, I think there is a note somewhere on using either F-body or monte brackets and a stock caliper with a 12" rotor but you don't have the 2 piston calipers for the better stopping power. Just a bigger radius rotor and better leverage for stopping. Up to you.

[Scottydoggs]

im using the spacers on my car, they are hardened steel bearings. i cant see how they would ever be a problem, all they do is center the bolt in the hole. the bolt. bolts to the caliper bracket, not the knuckle. ive had mine on for a year, no problems.

and they cost like 12 bucks.

[Neil98gt]

GXPs run a 13" rotor. 05-06 montes run a regular 12" rotor.

All you should need is

Calipers and brackets for F-body and matching pads
or
Calipers and brackets for a 05-06 monte and matching pads

05-06 monte rotors

if you go with the F-body calipers you need to have the brackets drilled and tapped for the factory mounting bolts to the knuckle.

You could keep the stock ones, I think there is a note somewhere on using either F-body or monte brackets and a stock caliper with a 12" rotor but you don't have the 2 piston calipers for the better stopping power. Just a bigger radius rotor and better leverage for stopping. Up to you.

do you mean 04-05? or 06-07?

didn't the MC SS 06&07 have 13" rotors?

[Logan541]

Ok so if I have his correct I can retain my stock rotors ( I have power slots and at $85.00 each I want to keep them) if I wish? and to do this and I am in a junkyard I want to snatch calipers off of what year make model car? Thanks

[Scottydoggs]

the up grade needs larger rotors, the f bodys are 12 inch.

maybe run the stocks till the rotors are worn out. then up grade. in the interest of saving money. buy the parts over time, use them later?

[Burbman]

For those who don't understand how powdercoating works, a guy I work with was in manufacturing and he explained it to me. The paint is really just powder, there is no solvent in it like regular spray paint. The part to be coated is typically hung on a cable line or other mechanism where it can moved into the oven after spraying. Much like static electricity, the piece to be coated gets a (-) charge and the powder particles have a slight (+) charge. This makes the powder stick to the piece, kind of like static attaches dog hair to your black pants. Once coated, the piece is moved into an oven where the surface is baked, forming the tough finish. If you were to remove the charge from the piece before baking, the powder would just fall away. Here's a good website with some good examples of powdercoating.

Powdercoating is very expensive to do, the powder is expensive, and it requires expensive equipment including a baking oven. So nobody is doing any real powdercoating in their garage, either you have the set up to do it right, or you don't.

A good option for calipers and other hi-temp or other parts requiring a tough finish is VHT caliper paint. Can get it at Auto Zone. It goes on like spray paint but then you cure it in an oven for several hours to harden it. Can use a regular over if sweetie lets you....kind of a hybrid between generic spray paint and full on powdercoating.

[stealthee]

I know plenty of people who have used an old kitchen oven to bake powder coated parts. I also know plenty of people who have done powder coating in their home garage.